Apparently I skipped that section because I don't remember that at all. I certainly don't buy into dragging ones dog around, I guess I'd have to reread the books (it's been years) and see what the context of that was.
Monks Of New Skete Training Theory
I just found a bit of information on this surfing.
Does anyone know about this method? Any thoughts on the subject????
Does anyone know about this method? Any thoughts on the subject????
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Anything that doesn't involve your dog sitting " time out " in the corner is
" Ole School " .....
Just kiddin folks ! :laugh:
" Ole School " .....
Just kiddin folks ! :laugh:
hahahaAnything that doesn't involve your dog sitting " time out " in the corner is
" Ole School " .....
Just kiddin folks ! :laugh:
They are "old school" to me based on theory. The stuff I watched on their TV show was all that wacky "dominance" crap like your dog isn't going to respect you if you don't make it stay off the furniture, alpha rolls, scruff it for discipline, etc.
Just use NILIF.
Just use NILIF.
The context the scruffing and alpha rolls was in was pretty much if the dog acted up, do X to get it to behave. Granted, alpha roll is not in the new book. But the photos on "how to properly scruff your dog" are.Apparently I skipped that section because I don't remember that at all. I certainly don't buy into dragging ones dog around, I guess I'd have to reread the books (it's been years) and see what the context of that was.
I just finished the "How to Be Your Dog's Best Friend" Got it from the public library.
The edition I read did retract their endorsement of alpha roles.
They did mention splapping your dog under the chin in certain situations. Some would consider that old school.
Also they mentioned running a dog while the handler is driving a car. Is that old school?
As a first time dog owner I didn't find it very helpful. Alot of the info was vague and theoretical. There were some interesting bits and pieces.
The edition I read did retract their endorsement of alpha roles.
They did mention splapping your dog under the chin in certain situations. Some would consider that old school.
Also they mentioned running a dog while the handler is driving a car. Is that old school?
As a first time dog owner I didn't find it very helpful. Alot of the info was vague and theoretical. There were some interesting bits and pieces.
the alpha rolls were retracted in the later edition, and scruffing - I suppose depending on what the pup is doing I'm not particularly opposed to it. I don't find it useful to scruff a pup if they are simply doing something they shouldn't be (such as chewing on a no no item), but if the pup is running up nipping repeatedly despite verbal corrections and redirection, I wouldn't be opposed to scuffing them and being clear that the behavior is unacceptable. But then, I don't consider it normal for dogs to be 5, 6 ,7+ months old and still being "nippy" like many do. All the jokes about landsharks are funny, but we just consider that unacceptable behavior from day one and set the guidelines early on, so things like that are never a problem here.The context the scruffing and alpha rolls was in was pretty much if the dog acted up, do X to get it to behave. Granted, alpha roll is not in the new book. But the photos on "how to properly scruff your dog" are.
I also don't think it's wrong for photos to be provided. Better than letting someone assume it's a different way and doing it incorrectly...if they are going to scruff, it should at least be in a safe and fair manner. Momma dog scruffs pups on a daily basis, there is nothing wrong with scruffing IF it's done in a non abusive manner.
I have read 2 books and yes they use choke collars and pops. They are well know for their breeding program and you can't even get on the waiting list anymore. They also do not let you choose your pup. When you apply for a pup you specify what your intent is, pet, SCH, police, etc. They have a special testing that they do (they have someone who does not know the pups come in) when the pups are young. It tells them what type of pup it is (hard to explain this). Then they place that pup with the applicant that it is best suited for. It was interesting and they are very successful at this. So someone looking for a pet does not end up with a pup more suited for SHC, etc.
Each monk is responsible for a certain dog and its pups if its a female. The pups are so well behaved that they can down in the main hall while the monks are eating and taking prayer, very impressive!
Each monk is responsible for a certain dog and its pups if its a female. The pups are so well behaved that they can down in the main hall while the monks are eating and taking prayer, very impressive!
Funny!Anything that doesn't involve your dog sitting " time out " in the corner is
" Ole School " .....
Just kiddin folks ! :laugh:
Ever wonder why some things got to be "Old School"? Maybe because they worked?????
As I said before (but not sure you saw it) I have a freind with a dog from there (he's 11 now..the dog not the friend LOL) and he was by far the best and smartest GSD pup and dog I have ever known! As I side note, he waited on the list for 5-6 years back then!I have read 2 books and yes they use choke collars and pops. They are well know for their breeding program and you can't even get on the waiting list anymore. They also do not let you choose your pup. When you apply for a pup you specify what your intent is, pet, SCH, police, etc. They have a special testing that they do (they have someone who does not know the pups come in) when the pups are young. It tells them what type of pup it is (hard to explain this). Then they place that pup with the applicant that it is best suited for. It was interesting and they are very successful at this. So someone looking for a pet does not end up with a pup more suited for SHC, etc.
Each monk is responsible for a certain dog and its pups if its a female. The pups are so well behaved that they can down in the main hall while the monks are eating and taking prayer, very impressive!
I watched the tv show back when I had cable. I don't remember them airing anything that disturbed me, but they don't use anything like clicker training. I remember the training to walk nice on a leash was to put the dog on a long line and change directions to get him to pay attention. That part at least was classic Koehler.
http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/divine-canine/divine-canine.html
http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/divine-canine/divine-canine.html
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