[jakeandrenee]

I just found a bit of information on this surfing.
Does anyone know about this method? Any thoughts on the subject????

 

[Good_Karma]

I've read their books. They are a little bit old-school. Leash pops, that sort of thing. I think there are better methods out there.

 

[canadianredd]

I've read both books by the Monks. I believe they have a video out as well, but I haven't watched it yet. Their methods are very much based on the alpha theory. They were a good read and I found some of the stuff useful, other parts I found a little much.

 

[canadianredd]

Yes Good Karma, Old School is the perfect way to describe New Skete.

 

[GSDElsa]

I think you have to take bits and pieces of what they have to say. Very old school, but they also promote including the dog a lot in your day to day activities and life and their own version of NILIF.

In the new version of the book they even seem to be backing off some of their more, er, questionable methods.

 

[jakeandrenee]

"Old school" how?
Using correction?

 

[liv]

Their new book is toned down quite a bit from the old one. I read the book, took some info, left a lot, but I'm not sorry I read it.

 

[CaseysGSD]

I have never read the book but I do have a friend who has one of their dogs and he is the smartest most human like German Shepherd I have ever known (I have never heard anything about any other of their dogs so I have no idea if it has to do with their breeding program or just by chance)

 

[jakeandrenee]

Which book would everyone recommend reading???

 

[Good_Karma]

We own The Art of Raising a Puppy. It's a newer edition where they retract their endorsement of the alpha roll. Like others have said, there are some good bits of info. If I were you, don't buy it, get it from the library.

Hmmm, how to define old-school? Any help here guys?

 

[liv]

We own The Art of Raising a Puppy. It's a newer edition where they retract their endorsement of the alpha roll.

That's what I have too, and I second the recommendation to get it from the library.

 

[jakeandrenee]

Jake will be nine months....Art of raising a puppy, did that ship sail or is it still a good read?

 

[jakeandrenee]

Any comments on For the love of a dog? I'd like to order at least one book to get a feel for what their style is. Up until 15 minutes ago I had never heard of them.

 

[Stogey]

Amazon.com has their books advertised for as little as .45 for used hardbacks in acceptable condition.

 

[jakeandrenee]

I just bought two books from Amazon for under 10 bucks! I guess in a few weeks I will update here with an opinion. I ordered The art of raising a puppy and How to be your dogs best friend.
I did get The art of raising a puppy for 49 cents!
Can some one tell me how you pronounce this order of monks?
Is is it pronounced like"skeet"?

 

[Rerun]

I've read both and liked both. The new edition retracts the recommendation for the use of the alpha roll, but otherwise it was about the same as the original as I remember (it's been awhile since I've read either book).

I don't consider them old school, but then again I'm not anti-correction during training so I guess if corrections are old school then I'm old school.

At the very least, their books are an interesting read.

 

[GROVEBEAUTY]

I agree, I'm old school also, just like the Monks.

 

[jakeandrenee]

So, in this case does "old school" mean using a prong and giving corrections? I don't know if I am "old school"or not?

 

[APBTLove]

Haven't read nor watched them.. but what makes them old school or questionable.. ?

Yeah, it's pronounced skeet.. They were on animal Planet once.

 

[GSDElsa]

So, in this case does "old school" mean using a prong and giving corrections? I don't know if I am "old school"or not?

No, I wouldn't say that. Alpha rolls, skruffing, etc. That stuff I consider very old school. Prongs and "ehhhhs" not so much.

When there are photo illustrations of how to drag your dog around by the neck...yes, that is a big old school.