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Hi,

We're searching for an excellent breeder in the Chicago area and right now we like the looks of Mittelwest. However, I've come across a few very negative reviews (although, admittedly, also hundreds of very positive ones). Still, the negatives scare me.

Does anyone have experience with this kennel, and with Julie Martinez?

We're thinking of setting up a time to visit the kennel, which we'd definitely do before making any decisions, but I'd like some thoughts. Thanks!


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I looked at them as they are very close to me. They seem to have very nice dogs and do work them. They do have a lot of pups on the ground as well. Made me wonder if they are socialized well enough. Once I heard the cost of $3500, I looked elsewhere.
 

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Mittelwest is a well known breeder of WGSL.

Is that type of German Shepherd you want?

In Illinois there's also Huertahof.

Mybodyguard dogs in Marengo is another option I've heard good things about.

Don't be afraid to travel for a puppy and most breeders will ship.
 

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Yes, WGSL is what we want. I agree their price is extreme but if it reflects the quality, we're willing to pay it. Good point about socialization...I'll have to ask them about that.

We really want the highest quality pup in terms of health and all around breeding because we'd rather pay more up front than risk vet bills down the line. We've own large breeds in the past but this will be our first GSD and we want to make sure we do it right :)

We are willing to travel or have a puppy shipped - any other WGSL breeders you recommend across the US?
 

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Check out Nadar K9 in Kentucky. Ash is extremely honest and ethical and super supportive of her puppy people. I think she has two litters being imported from Germany that are due soon.

I wouldn't hesitate to get one of her dogs.
 

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Julie Saso at MyBodyGuard. Great person and really nice dogs. Has a boarding kennel, does training classes, and they also have a Schutzhund Club there. Located in Marengo, Il, just outside of Chicago. I would highly recommend her and her dogs.
 

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I've noticed that their dogs are larger boned and have beautiful coloring. For some reason I can always pick out puppies that come from them due to the size and coloring. I touched base with them a long time ago about a puppy, but I decided that when I'm ready I will go through Robin at Huerta Hof. I think they just had one that had puppies the other day. I don't recall the father but I like the mother.
 

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Julie Saso at MyBodyGuard. Great person and really nice dogs. Has a boarding kennel, does training classes, and they also have a Schutzhund Club there. Located in Marengo, Il, just outside of Chicago. I would highly recommend her and her dogs.
I will second and third this. I just got my pup from her last Friday after months of dealing with them. She and her staff are great and the service after the sale has been fantastic thus far. Their in house training classes are very affordable, 6 week course for $115 and they are done on site. Her stud "One" is truly an amazing animal. Gorgeous in color and confirmation his temperament is even better. I have a puppy through him and he is very confident, smart and not spooked by anything or anyone. He doesn't flinch when my 2 year old throws a tantrum or when I run the vacuum right in front of him. All of her dogs have hips and elbows done as well.
 

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So many great recommendations...a bit overwhelming, I admit, but what a great selection! I'm impressed.

At the moment we're still leaning toward Mittelwest, a huge factor being their lifetime health guarantee. We'll be visiting the kennel soon. We aren't ready for a puppy quite yet, but we want to see where our pup would be coming from and meet the people and dogs. I'll definitely report back with my thoughts, for those who may be interested as well!
 

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Not sure where you're getting the Mittelwest lifetime health guarantee from. I have a 4 yo Mittelwest dog with severe bilateral hip dysplasia, x-rays rated by the SV in Germany at 12 months and on file. I was a valued Mittelwest team member for years, and received nothing as far as a guarantee. If anyone wants to know more, including info about his temperament as well as the kennel, please feel free to pm me.
 

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Not sure where you're getting the Mittelwest lifetime health guarantee from. I have a 4 yo Mittelwest dog with severe bilateral hip dysplasia, x-rays rated by the SV in Germany at 12 months and on file. I was a valued Mittelwest team member for years, and received nothing as far as a guarantee. If anyone wants to know more, including info about his temperament as well as the kennel, please feel free to pm me.
It says it on the website. My question would be do you have to return your dog to get replacement puppy? If that is the case then the warranty means nothing to me, because I'm not giving up a dog that I had for a year because it has hip dysplasia.

 

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I think there is a breeder up that way that offers a full life health guarantee for certain genetic conditions. They offer a new puppy of equal/greater value and let you keep your first one if you want to keep it. Most breeders make you give the 'sick' puppy back though to get a new one.
 

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Not sure where you're getting the Mittelwest lifetime health guarantee from. I have a 4 yo Mittelwest dog with severe bilateral hip dysplasia, x-rays rated by the SV in Germany at 12 months and on file. I was a valued Mittelwest team member for years, and received nothing as far as a guarantee. If anyone wants to know more, including info about his temperament as well as the kennel, please feel free to pm me.

Sandy, are you saying Julie of Mittelwest knows of your dog's health problems and has refused to offer a replacement?
 

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Sandy, are you saying Julie of Mittelwest knows of your dog's health problems and has refused to offer a replacement?
This discussion needs to be taken private.

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I think there is a breeder up that way that offers a full life health guarantee for certain genetic conditions. They offer a new puppy of equal/greater value and let you keep your first one if you want to keep it. Most breeders make you give the 'sick' puppy back though to get a new one.
Do you know which breeder this is?
 

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I purchased a pup from Julie at Mittelwest in 2000. He was a great dog but he did develop pretty severe hip dysplasia and I notified Julie. This is going back a long time, but if I remember correctly I think she was willing to replace my dog but who in their right mind is going to part with a dog that you already have become attached to. I think my Fritz was around 2 years old when it was detected and there was no way I was going to give her my dog back. I think the replace your dog warranties are pointless - would be nice to see breeders credit for a future dog if severe HD is detected by a certain age.
 

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I think the replace your dog warranties are pointless
Why? I offer the same thing. I don't require people to give the affected animal back. Most breeders don't require that these days.
 

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I think you should be just as diligent in health as looks if you are going the SL way. Most of these dogs are very heavily linebred and science tells us that when you heavily linebreed to a certain point then genetic, congenital and mental health issues increase. I'm not advising against SL dog, but I certainly would have a mentor help me.
 
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