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Igor, 7 month old GSD puppy, has been favoring his right front paw for the last 3 days. When he sits he holds the paw off the floor. He hasn't cried out in pain at all. He bites me if I touch it but he bites me if I touch any of his paws! He limps slightly when he is walking around the apartment. I have stopped taking him on his normal walks for the time being and am trying to keep him from jumping around. I do have 5mg Prednisone on hand that I'd been giving my boy Jax. Any suggestions? Should I give him 1 prednisone? thank you.

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Prednisone is used as an anti-inflammatory or an immunosuppressant medication
 

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Please do not administer pred without consulting with a vet! It's contraindicated in juvenile dogs, and it should never be administered without your vet being involved -- even when used as an anti-inflammatory in adults, there's a step-down process to get them off it, and you have to be very cautious about side effects (including infections). You don't know what's wrong with the leg or paw, so don't guess on meds.

Since it's been going on 3 days, it's time for a vet visit. Maybe you can get him in tomorrow, before the weekend?

Off the top of my head, your pup could have an injury (incl. paw pad, toe fracture, soft tissue or ligament...huge range of possibilities), elbow dysplasia (a joint deformity), or panosteitis (growing pains in the long bone which can be very painful and often need pain meds). Or something else entirely. The first step will be a careful exam (possibly including a careful check of the paw pad, doing some joint range-of-motion, and squeezing the long bone for tenderness). If there's nothing obvious that can be detected in the exam, you may need to do some x-rays.

Given his age, I'd ask the vet to look carefully for panosteitis on the imaging -- your dog is right in the pocket of the age when it tends to show up -- but there are lots of other possibilities, and you really need a vet to figure it out for you.
 

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Ignore my comment above. I read only one thread and posted to that thread but some how it posted over here. It won't let me delete.
 

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I have past experience with panosteitis. My first dobe, Callihan, had it....never limped but he would cry out in pain occassionally. I know Prednisone is a touchy thing. My vet prescribed it for Jax who was in intense pain in his hips...after a few days of Prednisone the pain went away. I know....vets....I don't have a lot of trust in most of them...I trust my cardiologist even less....today I will decide what to do...I appreciate your comments Magwart and ausdland. MineAreWorkingline, uh, trying to figure out the relevancy....
 

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As others have suggested, it could very well just be panosteitis, or growing pains. For the first 22 months of her life, Sheba has suffered off and on from Pano. She grew so tall, so fast, that I suppose it was inevitable. Our super-sized Sheba has had 12 flare-ups to date, and when she was really hurting we gave her doggie aspirin, which helped immensely. Hopefully that's the end of it now that she almost 23 months old!

It's best to have your vet check him out though.

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I know....vets....I don't have a lot of trust in most of them....

I understand -- and I encourage you to find one who will be a good partner to you and your dog. It takes some work sometimes to find a personality match...but it's so worth it.



I've jokingly told our rescue's vet that if I have a life-threatening disease myself, I want her to list me as a canine patient and take care of me -- she's smarter and more diligent than any of the MDs I know. She's known for saving more hopeless cases that even the internal medicine specialists say can't be saved -- people literally fly in from far away to see her for a "Hail Mary" last opinion. Most of our fosters have switched their personal dogs to her, even though it's a long drive to get to her clinic. She's absolutely beloved by clients.



If there's a GS rescue in your town, maybe try asking them who their favorite vet is. The rescue people tend know who the amazing vets are who get good results at reasonable cost, and most of us love to sing their praises to the community. When I moved to a new city, after a very unhappy experience in a nearby clinic, I asked the shelter and rescue people who they use for their personal dogs. There were two names that were on everybody's list as the best in the city (and several they quietly told me were so bad that they wouldn't even trust them for a neuter surgery).



Sometimes if you can find who the police K9 unit uses, you'll find someone who's fabulous with the breed, and especially orthopedics.



I wish you the best of luck in finding someone you like working with for your pup!
 

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Prednisone can be nasty stuff if it is not taken properly. Ask your own doctor what a prednisone regimen for humans is like. I would not give it to a dog except under supervision from a vet. See a vet.
 

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A couple of months ago Jupiter was a bit lame. After a week, it wasn't getting better, so I took him to the vet--who prescribed some kind of pain medication and two weeks rest. After that, he was back to normal, and has had no relapses. Jupiter must have been around 6 months at the time.
 

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Took Igor to medvet today...He's limping and not eating much and has been laying around the last 2 days. Tech examined him and told me with xrays the bill would be $600, which I dont have. The exam didn't reveal a fracture, tendon or ligament problems nor joint problems. For now, the treatment is for a soft tissue injury. They prescribed Gabapentin for pain. Because of Igor being lethargic the possibility of lyme disease was mentioned so they prescribed Doxycycline. No tests for lyme disease were done, however, I was told the Doxycycline wouldn't hurt him if he doesn't have it.
 

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Sounds like a slightly frustrating, sketchy vet visit!

Does he ever put weight on his paw, i.e. when standing up to eat or drink?

My dog had a sprained paw and it was quite painful and swollen the first day (he was whimpering while lying down). By day 3, I had a vet appointment but he suddenly took himself for a short walk with use of that paw (did he somehow know he had a vet visit scheduled, ha!). I never got extremely worried, because he still dragged himself outside and down the deck stairs to go potty, refusing to use the peepads I put down indoors. He also spent a lot of time laying down, slept more than usual. I think they have an instinct on how to heal themselves.

But what I saw, was daily improvement - every day he seemed to move a little more, put the paw to the ground a little more, put weight on the paw a little longer. By the end of one week, he was lifting his leg to mark again (while standing on the bad leg). If it is just a "soft tissue" injury i.e. a sprain, you should hopefully be seeing that kind of daily improvement too?
 

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If it is in fact Lymes, typically a dog will show drastic improvement w/I 24-48 hrs. Any antibiotic will impact the gut flora/the immune system so you may want to add a probiotic a few hrs after dosage. I came on to suggest it could be lymes since his appetite is off and the lethargy just as something else to be considered since you do have it in your state.

Also, if he does show improvement right away, double check the the length of time the Doxy was prescribed for. My previous vet prescribed a three week course for Lymes. I had to have a discussion with her about it because AAHA guidelines are for a 30 day course. Had to send her the AAHA guidelines link. Studies showed that the 21 day course (which is often standard) isn’t long enough to clear it out. Also, when I was researching it, apparently because the improvement is so quick, if Lymes is strongly suspected, some vets will skip the testing and go straight to the Doxy.

My guy has had both Pano and Lymes. It isn’t fun.

Hope he feels better soon.
 

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Sketchy vet visit...seems more and more it's always about the money....$600 for an xray? Igor hasn't improved at all. He walks when I take him outside with a limp but no discernable pain...at least he isn't crying or yelping. When we come back into the apartment he'll trot over to the couch and jump up on it...again, no discernable pain. He's not been wanting to fetch or play tug...He does put weight on it with no apparent problems. It's just the limping or holding his paw off the ground when he's sitting. The tech felt around his whole leg, from paw to shoulder...Just like with human doctors you're simply at the mercy of the "expert"....
 

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I had to order the Doxy online yesterday...a very large chain store in town, won't name no names wallyworld, wanted $198 for 56 caps...so that was out....a large online store, which makes Igor chewy his food, wanted $46....so hopefully when it arrives I'll see some improvement and a healing!
 
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