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I don't have any other resource that I have found which can answer my question or even give me a hint about what my GSD's recent behavior might be related to. So my pup is about 4 months and a week at this point, looking good, getting big (the bruiser is already 30+ pounds!), up to date on his shots, etc. He is to the point where he is GREAT with the kids, no more spaghetti worms, fleas are gone, etc. I have taught him successfully all the basic commands like speak, sit, come, easy, hush, etc. He has very few accidents in the house, no poop accidents anymore, goes on command outside, etc. I make sure to walk through the door first when we go on walks, he does a decent job about not trying to lead me and all in all he is a wonderful dog. Except...well..... a couple of times..... oh heck...He has peed ON me! Its only happened a couple of times at this point, but while the first was just a kind of nervous dribble onto my shoe, today he straight up walked over to me (15 minutes after being walked and using the bathroom), kind of went submissive and like he wanted me to pet him (tail wagging, etc.), and just unleashed this torrent of piss all over me. I tried to tell him stop, he peed more, I physically picked him up to bring him outside, he continued to pee all over me and all over everything nearby. by the time I got him to the door there was no point to bring him back outside, he was already bone dry and I was soaking wet. Does anyone know what this kind of behavior is indicative of? Has anybody else experienced this with their GSD? Is there something I can or should be doing to try and dissuade this? I don't get to play with him as much as I would like but he goes outside like a gazillion times a day for mini walks and twice a day for pretty decent walks, he has the run of the house during pretty much all of the day when he isn't in his crate as part of his training, he seems happy and eats and drinks well, displays affection towards me and my family (wife and kids); so why is he peeing on me?
 

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once they start submissive peeing if you raise your voice you are in for the full flow:) I've never experienced submissive peeing with a male dog but female dogs will even pee when they are on their backs if they are being really submissive.
 

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Is there any way to help my apparently submissive male, NOT be so submissive? He never does this with my wife when she is around and he is pretty bold with strangers. I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!
 

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More details on how you trained him - methods?
 

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Quote: I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!
For puppies, since we are already much larger and louder (and men have that nice deep voice) we are pretty much 'alpha' to our pups without doing a thing. So if we unintentionally become overwhelming cause we think we have to 'force' our alpha on our puppies we can accidentally cause them to go 'WOAH THERE, I KNEW YOU WERE THE BOSS, but if you need me to belly up and pee all over, that's ok with me too!

I find I choose to guide and lead my dogs in a firm way to gain leadership and it works well. There's some good sites on this at

I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!

I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/puppack.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/dances.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/leadership.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/relationshipbased.html
 

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It sounds like submissive urination and with boys it is so much more fun. They can aim and shoot without trying.

He wants to please you.

REPEAT that in your head when he does this.

Your best bet is to ignore this completely. Try to keep comings and goings low key, and if the boy piddles a bit when he sees you, just clean it up.

The pup is four months old and complete control is still tough. When his emotions are in on it, it is impossible. He will outgrow this, IF you do not over-react or punish him. Otherwise, it will be much harder.

In the wild, puppies do this because there is some type of pheramone in the puppy urine who will calm the more dominant dog.

Good luck with your puppy.
 

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Originally Posted By: MaggieRoseLee
Quote: I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!
For puppies, since we are already much larger and louder (and men have that nice deep voice) we are pretty much 'alpha' to our pups without doing a thing. So if we unintentionally become overwhelming cause we think we have to 'force' our alpha on our puppies we can accidentally cause them to go 'WOAH THERE, I KNEW YOU WERE THE BOSS, but if you need me to belly up and pee all over, that's ok with me too!

I find I choose to guide and lead my dogs in a firm way to gain leadership and it works well. There's some good sites on this at

I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!

I was always told it was a good idea to establish one's self as the "alpha" of the pack but I don't want to make the poor guy pee himself whenever I am around!

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/puppack.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/dances.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/leadership.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/relationshipbased.html
those links were awesome...they couldnt have put it in better terms
 
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