Kibble vs. Poop question.

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BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · Jun 11, 2008

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I never thought I would be posting about poop.

I have recently (roughly 30 days) changed my dogs kibble from Nutro NC Lamb and Rice to Canidae All Life Stages. And they are ALL pooping at least twice as much and twice as often.

The consistancy is normal. No "mushieness" (Is that even a word?) or anything but good gawd, I thought a "better" food would mean LESS, not DOUBLE the poop. (The adults used to be once or twice a day "poopers" but NOT anymore.)

Do I just deal with it, (it isn't an issue really, I live on a farm so it isn't like I am having to pick it up as they don't go in the "yard".) or assume that it isn't working for them? I've never had this situation before.

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GSDBESTK9

· #2 · Jun 11, 2008

Interesting, I had the same problem but in reverse. One of my dogs was pooping like 5 times a day while on Nutro, switched to Canidae and she was only going 1 to 2 times a day.

I guess each dog is different. Maybe try a different high quality kibble?

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ldpeterson

· #3 · Jun 11, 2008

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I've had this problem with Nutro before. I switched over to a different food and now we have 1 pile twice a day.

Sounds as if you could definately find something more digestable.

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BowWowMeow

· #4 · Jun 11, 2008

Canidae is a bit better than Nutro but there's not a huge difference. And it has been my experience that only the grain free kibble cut down on the amount coming out the other end.

ldpeterson

· #5 · Jun 11, 2008

Nevermind, I see that you switched from Nutro to Canidae! I thought it was the other way around. Perhaps it just doesn't work for your dogs?

rizzodm

· #6 · Jun 11, 2008

I just switched from Canidae to Royal Canin and the piles are less. He was pooping about 4x a day and they were huge! Now they are smaller and less frequent.

Dawn

BowWowMeow

· #7 · Jun 11, 2008

Canidae has grains as two of the first 4 ingredients. Although I do feed Rafi grains in his homemade food (works better for him) I have found that dogs on kibble with grain do poop more than dogs on kibble without it.

What protein are you feeding?

Kayla's Dad

· #8 · Jun 11, 2008

My experience is the same as Caroline's. Recently switched from Nutro Lamb * Rice to Canidae ALS and the poop quantity has decreased somewhat.

Originally Posted By: BlackGSDThe consistancy is normal. No "mushieness" (Is that even a word?)

I'm sure it's in the Doggie Thesaurus!

BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 11, 2008

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Originally Posted By: GSDBESTK9 Maybe try a different high quality kibble?

This is where the problems start. Canidae is the ONLY better quality kibble available within 70 miles ONE WAY. (Unless you count Chix Soup, but I fed Chix Soup for a couple of years stopping 3 1/3 years ago because after eating it for almost 2 years my dogs ALL started constant scratching. As soon as I took them OFF of the Chix soup, the scratching stopped.) I used to order it thru my feed store, BUT the distributor leaves a LOT to be desired and half of the time they would either NOT send it, OR they would send the WRONG thing.

I know ordering online is available, BUT in the winter, at times, the road is closed to ALL traffic so UPS can't get here

. (That and the fact that shipping alone to my location is at least $28 for a 40lb bag!)

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BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 11, 2008

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Originally Posted By: Everett54

Originally Posted By: BlackGSDThe consistancy is normal. No "mushieness" (Is that even a word?)

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I'm sure it's in the Doggie Thesaurus!

Ok good.

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BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 11, 2008

Originally Posted By: BowWowMeowCanidae has grains as two of the first 4 ingredients. Although I do feed Rafi grains in his homemade food (works better for him) I have found that dogs on kibble with grain do poop more than dogs on kibble without it.

What protein are you feeding?

Do you mean what protien source? If so, it is Chicken and Turkey, and I would imagine that Canidae doesn't have any more total grain % than Nutro.

BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 11, 2008

I wonder if the Canidae Lamb and Rice would work better for them? Any opinions?

Kayos and Havoc

· #13 · Jun 11, 2008

I have been told that lamb is easier for them to digest (vet said this).

You really must be in the middle of nowhere, more than me! I have to drive to Kennewick for dog food as I am using Natural Balance. I can get Solid Gold and Nutro in Hermiston at the feed store but I found that Havoc was not doign well on them.

I try to get food when I am there for something else like training or vet.

BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jun 11, 2008

Originally Posted By: KathyWI have been told that lamb is easier for them to digest (vet said this).

You really must be in the middle of nowhere, more than me!

Thanks. And the Nutro they were on was Lamb so I know they can handle Lamb.

Yeah. I can get Canidae in Moses Lake (40 miles one way.) The next closest decent sized town is Wenatchee (70+ miles one way.
Spokane is 100 miles and they the Tri-Cities is 110 miles (both one way.) I get grain for the horses in M.L. so I have to go there anyway. But with gas being $4.15 (today.) I haven't been much farther than that unless I am FORCED to go.

That is the main reason I went with Canidae. I just can NOT drive farther than Moses Lake for food. Not just with the gas price, but in the winter you take your life in your hands going that far, let alone twice that far or more. And some years "winter" lasts 5 or 6 months here.

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mikaK9

· #15 · Jun 11, 2008

Quote:And the Nutro they were on was Lamb so I know they can handle Lamb.

The change in protein might be a factor with the poop....depending on how long they had been on Nutro. They might just need longer to make a protein and kibble change. I know that with my dogs, it takes more than 30 days to get to the final results, no matter what the switch is to/from. If it were me and they like the formula you're giving them, I'd give it another month or so and then if there's no difference, maybe try the lamb formula. For my sensitive dog, it can take up to four months to see a full transition to normal consistency/size.

Kayos and Havoc

· #16 · Jun 11, 2008

I had heard ML was growing, is there a Petco there yet? I find they carry a better variety of premium food than Petsmart.

roxy84

· #17 · Jun 11, 2008

you may be overfeeding with the canidae. the nutro you were feeding has only 342 cals/cup while the canidae has 126 cals more per cup at 468. i know my girl was pooping much more than i thought necessary. i cut back a bit and this was reduced greatly while still maintaining her weight and overall energy.

Kayla's Dad

· #18 · Jun 11, 2008

Originally Posted By: roxy84you may be overfeeding with the canidae. the nutro you were feeding has only 342 cals/cup while the canidae has 126 cals more per cup at 468. i know my girl was pooping much more than i thought necessary. i cut back a bit and this was reduced greatly while still maintaining her weight and overall energy.

That's an excellent point. I did cut back on the quantity when I switched as well.

Halen

· #19 · Jun 11, 2008

Can you get Nature's Recipe? I love that food, or my dogs love it I mean! Their poops, well I really don't know how much they go, but they turn powdery, which I was told means there isn't a lot of filler.

By the way, your puppy in your avatar is so cute!!

BlackGSD

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 12, 2008

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Originally Posted By: KathyWI had heard ML was growing, is there a Petco there yet?

Not hardly!

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