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I give Ivomec(injectable)1% orally to my dogs once a month and know others that do as well with no problems. if you are concerned about the merle gene, GSD's don't carry it.
 

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one of my vets gave our puppy ivermectin shots 2 ten days apart to treat ? mange? he did not say but the 2nd vet i took dex to said that was what other vet was doing........dex was about 4 mos old at the time- he is now 5 mos old and still battleing a rash- about to see a holistic doctor as soon as she can see him
 

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Is this the same as giving your dog Interceptor?
Yes. I'm now giving Frag ivomec as well.

And GSDs do carry the mutant gene. Most herding dogs have the propensity to.
 

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Interceptor does not contain ivermectin - different drugs.

However, dogs with the mutant gene are also susceptible to the active ingredient in Interceptor. I give interceptor at 1/5 the U.S. Dose, which is called the Safeheart dose, and only effective for HW and not the other parasites.

Back to the OP, my understanding when using the liquid, is that you have to be *very* careful about dosing.
 

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Interceptor does not contain ivermectin - different drugs.

However, dogs with the mutant gene are also susceptible to the active ingredient in Interceptor. I give interceptor at 1/5 the U.S. Dose, which is called the Safeheart dose, and only effective for HW and not the other parasites.

Back to the OP, my understanding when using the liquid, is that you have to be *very* careful about dosing.

Meh. You'd have to overdose by a LOT to cause any issues. I've treated dogs for mange at work with ivermectin at 3-5x their weight dosage everyday for months with no ill effects.
 

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Meh. You'd have to overdose by a LOT to cause any issues. I've treated dogs for mange at work with ivermectin at 3-5x their weight dosage everyday for months with no ill effects.
It sounds like you have been very lucky not to have treated a mutant-mutant. If so, you would know it, and that type of dosing would clearly kill them.

I have a feeling though that the OP just wants to use the liquid version for monthly HW treatment (preventative) to go the cheaper route.
 

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Yes the reason I am asking is that we have a German Shepherd, Great Dane and a Minature Dauchund to treat we is very costly especially for retired people. But I don't want to put them in danger for saving money either.
Thanks for the inputs.:)
 

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It sounds like you have been very lucky not to have treated a mutant-mutant. If so, you would know it, and that type of dosing would clearly kill them.
Most vets treat demodectic mange with an OD of liquid ivermection. Audrey was on the same treatment for several months after I adopted her. It's very common. Unless the dog has the gene, it will not kill them or cause any other ill effects.
 

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It sounds like you have been very lucky not to have treated a mutant-mutant. If so, you would know it, and that type of dosing would clearly kill them.

I have a feeling though that the OP just wants to use the liquid version for monthly HW treatment (preventative) to go the cheaper route.
Not really. We never got any type of dog in that we had to treat that we had to worry about having the gene. We would have seen effects while it was on monthy heartworm preventative, anyway.

Like I said, you'd have to overdose a LOT to do damage, and that would be behavioral/neurological, not death.

I'm sure that is why the OP wants it, and that's fine by me... that's why I'm using it.
 

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I use it on all my GSD's and even my Pit Bull/Lab mix, but you need to make sure that they don't have the gene first. Also I got the dosage to use on all my dog's from my personal vet. If this is something that you are looking at doing, you need to really check with your vet and also get them heart worm tested before starting the ivomec on a monthly basis.
 

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My GSD had Demodex Mange, the Vet gave me Ivermectin to treat it, I had to get another dosage every 3 weeks for almost 3 months, it cost me over $600 and a couple months later his Demodex Mange came back and the Vet wanted me to pay for the treatment all over again :mad: I found out on here that you can give them Immune Supplement pills to boost their immune system and help fight it off, I paid $20 I think for the pills, his mange went away.
 

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Ivermectin itself is very cheap - $35 for a huge bottle that will last you forever. If the mange is bad, no pill in the world is going to fight it off. If it's just in the early stages sure, but advanced mange requires much more than an immune system boost.
 

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Ivermectin itself is very cheap - $35 for a huge bottle that will last you forever. If the mange is bad, no pill in the world is going to fight it off. If it's just in the early stages sure, but advanced mange requires much more than an immune system boost.
I understand that, his mange wasen't bad, only some hairloss around his eye and a little patch of hair missing on his ear, the Vet failed to mention that dogs under the age of 2 can fight off Demodex Mange on their own but you can also give Immune Supplement pills to help get rid of it. She also failed to mention that you can buy some Ivermectin at your local feed store. So instead of spending $35 on a bottle that will last me forever I spent over $600 on that crap and had to come back every 3 weeks and retest him (skin scrape) and get another dosage.
 

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I totally agree, don't get my wrong. I remember the thread and I remember telling you it sounded like mange back when your vet didn't think it was. But license wise, I doubt they would be willing to risk sending you to TSC and telling you how much to give, etc. Sure there are vets that would do that but I don't know any.

My prior vet did not support half the things I do with my dogs, so I switched to one that was more open minded. I don't vaccinate yearly, I order Akira's EPI meds online for 1/6 the cost, I am switching to Ivomec for HW treatment, and I won't bring my dogs in for a yearly "checkup" to be charged $50 to have them say "looking good!" Some vets are simply too traditional and not interested in reading current medical updates regarding diet, vaccines, etc.

So, one sometimes has to find a better vet that is more in line with their thinking. However, no matter how new and improved the vet is, I still can't imagine any that I know recommending OTC Ivermectin for HW prevention or mange treatment. You should of, however, been advised that as it was minor helping his immune system should help.
 

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Ivermectin is the active ingredient in HeartGuard.

This drug is dangerous to collies (in excessive amounts), but not GSDs as far as I know.

The dosage of ivermectin to treat demodex is 3x what it is to treat heartworm, and is given daily not monthly.

Anyone who goes to a vet to get this drug is wasting their money. Anyone who goes to a vet to treat mange is really wasting their money.

You can treat mange at home for seven cents and perform the identical treatment that a vet will charge you $45 to do in the office. Same drugs, same dosages. This is no exaggeration.

It's all a matter of being an educated dog person ... or not.

Jack




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