I'm always intrigued by the" breed to a Malinois" comments. Considering your statement concerning what a mess the breed is, what makes you think the people who contributed to the demise would ever be able to successfully do such a breeding?
What are you thinking the Malinois will add that is missing from the working line dogs ? I say working lines because I could not even imagine why anyone would breed a Mal to the other lines.
Disclaimer: My comments have nothing to do with whether I like Malinois. I have seen some I really do like..
I have the same question
Yes, and SchH should have never been promoted as a weekend activity for everyone and anyone who had a dog.
I agree and disagree. I don't mind that it has tried to bring more people into the sport. I think doing just OB or just tracking titles are a good idea or ob and protection to get different levels for those that can.
as with everything, the problem is still in the people themselves. If people were honest with what they have and in dealing with others we wouldn't have any of these problems.
I don't mind that SchH became a sport, that was inevitable. Humans compete, in everything

We can debate the merits of different exercises etc, i have changes I'd like, but not drastic ones. Or maybe they are depending on who you ask
But regardless, a fairly done Trial is still a pretty decent test. I think the problem is, too many people forget that the judge was nice to them that day or their own club helper "helped" their dog in the trial somehow. Remember, I said a fair trial.
We learn about our dogs in training. There is so much you can see in a dog with just a man, a sleeve and a stick. I can see what should be passed on and what shouldn't. So can most everyone else. BUT, they have so and so in their pedigree and they want to preserve the lines. WTF is that all about, your dog isn't even mediocre, why preserve those qualities??
Any fairly decent dog should be able to pass a trial, and I know it was started as a breed test, but it doesn't bother me it has evolved past being just that. I'm fine with it being a sport and a way to trial against another team and see who "wins"
But people need to be much more honest about what's in a dog and what isn't. I know many more people that put more stock in a pedigree and a leniently judged trial than all the weaknesses evident every day in training in their stud dog or brood bitch.
That part is sad. When your dog will only come into a blind because the helper has invited him in every day for 3 years, and still he needs an invitation to come in a barkon trial day, and barely holds on for an escape bite and gets baby hits so he doesn't come off in the re-attack, I don't care if Neck von der Maineiche is "X" generations back. He's obviously not influencing the dog YOU have very much

But hey, he's sired 3 crappy litters already. That scenerio happens far more often than it should.
A cranky old German decoy said to me -- there are people in the sport that are not there for the dog , they are there for their ego . He said some of them do not even like dogs. The dogs, the sport are a means to an end . The art of understanding a dog , and as a partner building that dog don't exist anymore. The relationship is adversarial from the start. The young pup, young dog is smashed against some test , and abandoned , instead of put into a rewarding relationship and allowing for maturity. That affects the kind of pups you would produce to meet this market .
he may have been cranky, but he sounds pretty smart
