[Kendal22550]

Ive really noticed that im begining to LOVE the dogs that Ive seen that have been "over seas". Their coloring is beautiful, more red it seems. How do you guys feel about this? Anyone have any experience? Pros and cons? Is the price usually significantly more?

 

[Liesje]

There are so many kennels, even good reputable ones, for GSDs in the USA, to me, the price of importing and waiting for papers, etc, is not worth it. If I wanted a showline dog with rich pigment, I'd look at breeders who imported their sires and dams rather than import my own dog, and just have it shipped within the USA.

 

[BoLFuNK]

i agree with liesje !! if you have that sort of breeders then ur gonna get the same results with (i guess) less price !! just make sure the sire & dam looks the way u want ur pup to look like , and check the pedigree of the parents to get an idea of how good their production is ! i.e check previous litters and grand grand parents not only parents !

 

[Chris Wild]

Are you talking imported dogs, or European ("imported") bloodlines?

European bloodline dogs are European bloodline dogs, and look like European bloodline dogs, whether they came of the plane from Europe themselves or their parents/grandparents/etc.. were imported. So really makes no difference in that sense if you have a dog shipped from Europe, or buy from someone in North America breeding European lines.

Yes, both types of European bloodline dogs, show lines and working lines, have a different look and personality about them than do the North American lines.

 

[Kendal22550]

What would you say is the personality difference? Im going to be looking into a puppy in the next two years maybe. I want to get everything straight. I guess it is the European bloodline dogs that I am talking about. To tell you the truth, I dont know the difference. Thats why Im asking you guys!!! The US breeder makes complete sence, but Id still like to know more!

 

[Chris Wild]

Under German breeding rules, all dogs, regardless of show or working line, must be SchH or HGH herding titled. Therefore, they must possess the temperament traits to pass those tests, unlike in North America where no titles are required. They are typically higher drive, harder, stronger in character, etc... compared to North American lines. With working lines being stronger in those traits than German show lines.

 

[angelaw]

Well it doesn't look like you'll be importing a puppy under 6 months any more (at least not from a breeder who imported the pup) you'd have to go directly to the foreign breeder. It has passed the Senate, but not the house as of yet.

http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=3381

 

[Chris Wild]

Originally Posted By: Angela_WWell it doesn't look like you'll be importing a puppy under 6 months any more (at least not from a breeder who imported the pup) you'd have to go directly to the foreign breeder.

http://www.akc.org/news/index.cfm?article_id=3381

Interesting.

Unless I'm reading it wrong though, you can still import puppies for your own use, just not to resell. So breeders and brokers who import pups to turn around and sell them are SOL, but individuals can still purchase a pup from directly from someone in Europe and have it sent to them.

 

[angelaw]

yep, that's how I took it. What about a pup you import, decide it won't work in your program and decide to sell a few months later?

 

[Kendal22550]

So, basically you cant have a german/european GSD that isnt a working dog? Wait, that sounds wierd..... I love working dogs, thats why I love GSDs, but I dont necessairly want a "WORKING" dog. Understand?

 

[Amaruq]

A title doesn't make a dog a "working" dog though. It just means it has a title. Many are earned but a few, seemingly, are purchased.

 

[Vinnie]

Yep - what Ruq said. Just because a dog has a SchH title doesn't mean it's a working dog.

 

[Kendal22550]

Hannah has a super high drive for her tennis ball and to swim and to play soccer, thats about perfect for me. I dont want much more i dont think. She was soooo easy to train and loves to please. I guss Im not looking for a dog thats go go go all the time, Thats what makes me nervous about the "imports" I guess.

 

[Vinnie]

Sounds like you want a dog similar in temperament and drive as Hannah just different color? Do you know what lines Hannah is? Do you have a pedigree for her?

 

[Catu]

There are German Working Lines and German Show lines. German Show ones are usually quite back laid dogs, but had enough to earn at least a SchH I and they are the ones who have the rich red color you like.

 

[Kendal22550]

I do have hannah's pedigree, but I dont know where the are.

To many moves! Ill take a German show lines pup please

How much should I expect to pay..... anyone know? (It doesnt matter to much, just curious.)

 

[BoLFuNK]

i have seen online showline prices range from 2,500$ to 4,500$ they are all imported though , lemme just find the link for u ....


http://www.worldclassgsd.com/German_shep...t_puppy_for.htm

this is the link for that site ! hope i helped u

 

[Liesje]

Originally Posted By: KendalANDHannah
How much should I expect to pay..... anyone know? (It doesnt matter to much, just curious.)

I'd say $800-$1800, for one bred in the States.

Is this like what you are looking for?
http://www.mittelwest.com/German%20Shepherd%20Puppies%20For%20Sale%20pictures.htm

http://www.drachefeld.com/litters.php

 

[Kendal22550]

It looks like the "plush" coat or long haired puppies on mittlelwest.com are discounted..... why is this? Is that what it looked like to you? But, yes.... that is EXACTLY what id like.... But im not sure i need a pup from a SchH3 mom/pop. That isnt exactly what i intend to do with him/her. But they are beautiful! Id love one of the plush coated pups! To bad im not ready now.

 

[Chris Wild]

Originally Posted By: Liesje

I'd say $800-$1800, for one bred in the States.

That seems a bit low. I've rarely seen show line pups for under $1500. Many go for closer to $2500.

Unless there is a diqualifying fault, like a long coat. They they're often discounted.