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This is a video of Ike doodling for dinner last night. Mostly attention and a little bit of puppy heeling. I noticed a few things watching the video myself: (1) probably should put his food bowel somewhere else, (2) he knows 2 way attention but not 1 way so I need to work more on getting him to watch me from the side. Like Elisabeth, I'm posting this to see if I can get some feedback and pointers on how to do this better. Thanks!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7vNlOdjvk
 

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He's got a lot of enthusiasm that's for sure!

What does 2 way attention mean to you? I've not heard that before..
 

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I have never seen anything like this demonstrated before, absolutely amazing! Just goes to show you I'm really behind in learning training techniques. Thank you for sharing this.

Please tell me, is there a specific reason for doing this in the hallway related to the training?

Wonder if it's to late to try it on my two? I *love* that step / stop / sit / step / stop / sit like a little furry robot! And he barely ever takes his eyes off you!
 

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That was excellent!! Waiting for the answer also what is 2-way attention exactly? also what are your commands voice commands your using? I hear you say Yes when he does what you want.
 

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Leesa, by 2 way attention I just meant when Ike wants to look at my whole face, in other words, when he wants full eye contact from me instead of just looking at the side of my face (without eye contact from me). You see in the beginning when we are just going attention work if I take a step sometimes he will take 1 1/2 step and then cranck his head 180 to look at my face.

Deb, the hallway is there to prevent Ike from swinging his butt out when we heel. If there is no barrier, that's what he will most definitely do.

Heidi, I'm not saying anything at this point in his training. He is too cranked up in drive and puppy stupidness at this stage to hear me anyway
I'm thinking of starting to add commands in another week or two.
 

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Quote:Deb, the hallway is there to prevent Ike from swinging his butt out when we heel. If there is no barrier, that's what he will most definitely do.
This is what I'm having to do with one of the dogs I'm working with on heeling.. He's wanting to do the same thing with his hind end.. So I've been using the wall at my training facility, the fence in my yard or at the tennis court.. I will start gradually moving away from the barriers..

Ideally I want full eye contact from the dog and teach that right from the beginning.. In the early stages of focus work I heavily reward the dog any time he looks at me.. I also mark it with my marker word letting the dog know that's exactly what I want and that's what will get him the reward.. Once you teach the dog that looking into your eyes gets him what he wants, food and r a toy the rest is easy..

After I've taught the dog to sit.. I will step into basic position and ask for attention their.. That's when "I" start marking the behavior with my command word.. ie fuss.. gradually building the time I ask for attention.. so now when I tell this pup to fuss he whips his head up looking me in my eyes.. then I go into proofing w/mild distractions.. Does that make sense?
 

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Leesa,

What about stand and down? Do you wait until you get eye contact and then mark? In other words, let's say once the pup understands what platz means (or at least he is getting the hand signal), do you now wait for him to look up at you from the down position before you mark/reward? Obviously with sit, the pup will take the position and most likely look up (since that's where the reward comes from, above his head). With the down, sometimes Ike will just stare at the ground because that's where I have been feeding him to stablize the position (and from that position, if I do ask for eye contact, sometimes he will break position). Does that make sense?
 

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He's at my very favorite age - about 4 months. All feet and ears and chunky legs, but so willing to learn. Very nice job you're doing with him, Jason. He's not only gorgeous, but I have a feeling he's going to be a very accomplished adult.
 

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Jason,
I have the same problem with the learning to watch during the position changes. My youngster, besides having gone brain dead at 7 months, has some difficulty reorienting to my face on the sit, down, stand exercises. I can get it but more often than not he just hops up. I am working slowly on it, trying to capture the refocus more than anything else. Guess it is one thing at a time with the short attn span youngsters.
 

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Thanks. He is an intense lil guy, that's for sure. The joke at training is we really should have him wear a helmet for his own sake. You can see in the video he actually banged his head hard against the wall a few times doing his self taught flying left hand flip finish
But he either has a high pain threshold or is very dense (maybe that's the same thing) because those kind of things don't really phase him. 4 months is a fun age. So much enthusiasm, energy, but not much brain yet! Perfect for training haha.
 

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I'm thinking maybe I should put him on a table to work position. Maybe that would help with getting him to look up from the down position without getting up.

Ideas, suggestions welcome.
 
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