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I guess we must have been very lucky. We got litter mates 2 years ago, Tuke and Zoey. Just to let you know, Tuke is a girl. We have had none of the problems mentioned in this thread. They have been absolutely fantastic dogs. They were separated during training and sometimes during exercise, other than that they were together. Zoey is a Velcro dog big time, while Tuke is a great kid dog, when the kids head out back, she's usually right behind them. Zoey prefers to stay close to my wife and I. I'm guessing it's their polar opposite personalities that has made this work out so easily.
 

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Wow I didn't think about this. When i got Jasira, my old guy Dizan, who was 14 was still here. He tolerated her but didn't really want to play. He was slowing down and rested a lot. He passed away in September last year. Jas was about 3-4 months old at the time. I had asked Elaine , my breeder to keep an eye out for another puppy for me. I was going to get another girl until I read from you guys that 2 girls was a bad idea so I asked her to find me a male puppy not related to Jas. ( I have no plans to breed but the option is there if i change my mind; but I don't believe in breeding a female until they are at least 3 years old anyway.) Do you think Jas at 1 and Xerx at 4 months are to close in age? Not that I'd get rid of one or the other. My dogs are my dogs for life. I should add they get along good but I don't let them together a lot because my trainer friend told me that as little as Xerx was at the time Jas could break his back; so be careful.
 

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We had a couple in our novice OB class that had 2 female dobermans from the same litter. They each trained their own dog, but they were about 8-10 months and both had alpha personalities. They ended up getting into some pretty serious fights trying to establish dominace that required a lot of stitches on one of the dogs back and throat and an ear almost getting torn off. They missed more than half of the classes due to fight injuries. They even tried to fight during class and they always had their shock collars on. I'm not quite sure what happened to them as they quit coming to class.
 

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worst idea ever --- especially littermates. You will never appreciate them as unique individuals and you will always be battling with their tight involvement with each other.
Everyone has their own opinion on this but I found with my two boys we did appreciate their uniqueness. They had completely different personalitites. We had other dogs too and they bonded with them and with us as much as with each other. Buddy was heartbroken when we lost his brother but he was also heartbroken when we lost Xena the year before and she was not his littermate. He was also depressed because both daughters are out of the house going to college. Not only is the new puppy helping this but one of the daughters is home for summer break so Buddy is a happy camper once again. Raising two puppies from the same litter is not for everyone but it can be done successfully and I'm glad we did. :)
 

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Tuke and Zoey have had a few fights, but they have been mostly noise and they will break it off once we get after them. Any injuries they have gotten have come from playing, Tuke use to go after Zoeys ears. Zoey also had her eye scratched & she had it retracted, that freaked us out. Our vet sent us right to an eye specialist (I didn't know dogs had eye doctors) and we were assured that it was minor and that dogs have the ability to retract the eye, pretty weird looking though.
 

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Also I had to laugh at Selzer's Alligator comment. Daisy our 14 old lab will still try to take your hand off. Thank god she can still see & we can toss her treats.
Tuke and Zoey are extremely gentle taking food.
 

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I don't get why everyone is hating the whole two puppies at once. I have to puppies and they're 4 days apart, they have both bonded together and have bonded with us really well, they understand that they can play but when we call them, game time is over and they need to hurry their little butts over to receive their commands. :)
 

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Generally the issues are:
Puppies bonding to each other rather than the owner
Owners not having enough time to offer each (it's THREE times the work to have two pups)
Littermate syndrome
Same-sex issues with sexual maturity if it's two sisters
Double/triple the cost in vet bills and food
Most reputable breeders won't sell littermates, or two pups to one person at the same time like this, so most pairs are gotten from BYB's
Inexperienced owners getting two GSD pups at the same time without making sure they can handle a single landshark first
 

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Distract one while the other goes on a walk ,vice versa. My my 6mnth old black and tan GSD she sleeps in my bed and now we have an 8 week old black & silver sable who wants to sleep where Mieka sleeps but we say no she has an alternative that she's been excepting , sleeping in my sons room. So at night mieka had here space and Millie has hers . Give them more often there own private time away from eachother. Should help for a while. And bones can easily start fights. So when givin a bone do it privately with each dog in separate areas.

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Kira and Calli

I have two female littermates and have no run into issues
I just updated their thread, so feel free to look in the general forum if you want more info.

I definitely got told not to do it from many people in this forum.
But it worked for me, although not promising it would work for anyone else.

I put a ton (and that is under selling it) of time into working with both of them.
 

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Just want to mention that Spazzydots pups are not GSDs, they are GSD/Anatolian Shepherd crosses, which may make a difference. Also they were spayed young, which won't make a difference after there are problems, but removing the hormones and heat cycles may eliminate issues before they ever got a chance. And STILL it was a lot of work.

I know that having female littermates is doable, as I have done it a couple of times, but the best advice for most people is "Don't."
 

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Selzer, Kira and Calli ended up being spayed at 9 months old.
So not too young (since I believe last I posted I was planning on at 6 months), I found a vet that I really liked and she kept watching their bone growth, and gave me the okay for spaying. So not sure if 9 months is "young" for spaying. But they definitely did not go into heat.

But they are GSD and Anatolian mixes. So could have made a difference.

And definitely a lot of work.
Not a choice to be made lightly that is for sure!
 

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Spazzydots. I have had several sets of GSD littermates. Babs and Jenna, Bear and Dolly, Heidi, Whitney, and Tori, Milla and Ninja, and currently Hannah, Hepzibah, and Hermione.

I really haven't had any problems with them being together up through a year old. Hannah and Hermione turned one in March and are sharing a kennel. Babs and Jenna were together for 15 months, Milla and Ninja for a year. Heidi and Whitney for over a year, while Tori was the odd ball out -- three's a crowd and they will gang up on a third -- ask Ender.

Sexual Maturity happens at different ages. I was able to leave Hepsi in with Jenna through her heat cycle and until those babies were 8 weeks along. Hepsi was almost 11 months old when Jenna had the litter. But, a lot of bitches are not safe together when there is a heat cycle. Jenna was Hepzibah's dam, but that really isn't an indicator because Arwen was Jenna's dam, and when she was pregnant she attacked Jenna, but left Babsy alone.

Bitches are interesting because it is not always the same thing that makes them tick. But they can be more tempramental when the heat cycle strikes, so it is just best to separate them.

Jenna was seven and Hepsi almost one, and Hepsi was in there riding her, and Jenna was letting her. What a couple of nuts.

Spaying early -- prior to the bitch going into heat, not early in the sense of being too young to be spayed, just removes one of the dimensions.

I was just pointing that out because it could make a difference as this thread is specifically here to discourage people from getting in over their heads with littermates.

I have kennels and can separate all of my girls all the time if that is necessary and have no qualms about that. Most people just have pets that they want to all live together harmoniously like the ideal happy family. And the idea of crate/rotate, kenneling them separately, having one dog in while you eat dinner and another dog in while you are watching a movie or fiddling around on your computer, would be totally awful to many people.
 

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No worries! Not taking offense to it.
Just wasn't certain what you meant by "young"
It makes sense now, and I agree it is not for everyone.

And I work with two foster based rescue so I agree with informing people about anything and everything ahead of time. (and we spay EVERY dog before they are adopted out, this could be very young, or after they have had litters of puppies. But we are pulling from multiple very high kill shelters in the south, so we just know its easier for us to spay and adopt out, than to expect people to get their own dogs spayed, because we get dogs constantly dropped off while in labor!)
People get over their head with just one dog all the time!

People frequently lack common sense, and make spur of the moment decisions!
They expect dogs to just be wonderful dogs with no training.

In my opinion make sure before getting even just one dog, you have the time to handle and properly train them. Especially in the first two years.
Or don't be pissed and blame the dog when they misbehave or act out!
 

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I raised a puppy once, and after having him for 2 months, we decided to rescue a dog. While the dog was about 16 months old, he came with his own problems and it made raising our first dog (the younger one) very difficult. After 2 months we decided to re-home the rescue (which was wrong for us to have put him in such a situation).

It was sadly, the best for all parties involved.

When you get a puppy, raise that puppy. Once your puppy is an adult, and you want a second dog, go ahead and increase your pack size... But if you don't have a relationship established with the existing pack members, new pack members won't get what they deserve.
 

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I have two female littermates and have no run into issues
I just updated their thread, so feel free to look in the general forum if you want more info.

I definitely got told not to do it from many people in this forum.
But it worked for me, although not promising it would work for anyone else.

I put a ton (and that is under selling it) of time into working with both of them.
Your points are moot.

Being the exception to the rule does not mean you need to pass that experience on as the standard or as an option. In all likelihood, you did things right on many levels that most dog owners will never address.
 

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These links are broken. Since this is a sticky I wonder if we could get some updated links on littermate syndrom and experts who think that two are bad. :) Thanks
I fixed one of the broken ones and removed the other. Thanks for bringing up the problem so I could fix it!

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A quick question after reading this thread. I have a year and half old female GSD, she is a well trained house dog at this point and I am beginning agility training with her. I've been looking into getting a male puppy and was curious what people thought about this. I hadnt had any thoughts about this till I read this thread.
 
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