[DaBai]

Hi all!

My 3yr old female 57lbs GSD is diagnosed with UTI today. She is put on generic antibiotics but the vet is waiting for the result of culture analysis. The vet told me this is super common among female dogs and there is no known cause for this.

Just wondering if any experienced folks here can share some advice regarding what I can do to try to prevent this from happening again.

Thanks in advance and here are some pics of my best friend!

 

[Momto2GSDs]

You can use this product daily as a preventive: Nusentiia Utrin https://www.amazon.com/NUSENTIA-Dual-Action-Cranberry-D-Mannose-Recurring/dp/B00IWZD37C

*A powerful formula combines D-Mannose and Cranberry to strengthen urinary health and provide superior support against urinary tract infections and bladder infections in dogs and cats.

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Your dog should also be on a high quality Pro-Biotic daily.

If the dog is still on medication, Probiotics should be given 2 hours away from abx.

Sunday Sundaehttps://feedsentials.com/sundaysundae (click on the email to order)
Miracle: https://www.amazon.com/NUSENTIA-Pro...YDB4RQQTJ9D&psc=1&refRID=0HCZZ6C2DYDB4RQQTJ9D
Mercola Digestive/Probiotic: https://shop.mercola.com/product/2118/1/whole-food-digestive-probiotic-for-pets-94g-per-container-1-container
Gut Sensehttp://dr-dobias-natural-healing-usa...ducts/gutsense
Digest All Plus:https://www.thewholisticpet.com/dog/supplements/digestion/wholistic-digest-all-plustm.html
Animal Essentials: http://animalessentials.com/plant-enzyme-w-probiotics-3-5-oz-100-gm/


Love the 3rd picture of her lounging!

Moms

 

[Sunsilver]

Don't spay before 2 years! At what age was your girl spayed?

 

[Jax08]

Just make sure she is drinking properly. I use D-mannose for UTI's. It's the sugar derived from cranberries that helps with UTI's. I really like this with puppies who seem to be more prone to them. If I see a housebreaking start to decline I add this to their meals.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27424995

 

[DaBai]

Don't spay before 2 years! At what age was your girl spayed?

I don't remember the exact time but between 18 months to 24 months old. We originally wanted to wait till 2 years but she never had heats and we were concerned with her potentially having some problems in her ovaries or uterus and thought might as well do spaying and check asap. Anyway the operation was quite successful and vet told me that her ovaries or something looked normal aside from looking smaller than dogs who went through heats but larger than dogs who didn't.

 

[Jax08]

Just make sure she is drinking properly. I use D-mannose for UTI's. It's the sugar derived from cranberries that helps with UTI's. I really like this with puppies who seem to be more prone to them. If I see a housebreaking start to decline I add this to their meals.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27424995

On a side note, I spoke with a Dr. last year who drank a ton of cranberry juice and it caused crystals because it upset the acidic/alkaline balance. Soooo....just use it when you feel she needs it, not as a regular supplement, unless she has underlying causes such as kidney failure which puts a dog at higher risk.

 

[DaBai]

https://www.amazon.ca/Cranberry-D-M...?keywords=D-Mannose+dog&qid=1572152279&sr=8-2

How do you guys think of this brand? I can't find the brand suggested on Canadian Amazon.

 

[Momto2GSDs]

https://www.amazon.ca/Cranberry-D-M...?keywords=D-Mannose+dog&qid=1572152279&sr=8-2

How do you guys think of this brand? I can't find the brand suggested on Canadian Amazon.

Yes, looks to be a good product.


If you did want the Nusentia brand, you can order directly from the company:
Utrin: https://nusentia.com/utrin-urinary-tract-infection-dog-cat.html

ProBiotic Miracle: https://nusentia.com/pet-probiotics.html

Moms

 

[Jax08]

I think as soon as they put "dogs and cats" on a product they jack the price by 3 times.

I use NOW D-Mannose powder.
https://www.nowfoods.com/supplements/d-mannose-powder

But if you just search for D-Mannose powder, you'll find other brands.

 

[Sunsilver]

I don't remember the exact time but between 18 months to 24 months old. We originally wanted to wait till 2 years but she never had heats and we were concerned with her potentially having some problems in her ovaries or uterus and thought might as well do spaying and check asap. Anyway the operation was quite successful and vet told me that her ovaries or something looked normal aside from looking smaller than dogs who went through heats but larger than dogs who didn't.

Well, that's not so bad, then. But some females have problems with an inverted vulva, which can cause UTI's. If they are allowed to go through one or more heats before being spayed, the problem often corrects itself.

Females that are spayed early (pediatric spays) are much more likely to suffer from UTIs than those that are allowed to reach sexual maturity before spaying.

 

[DaBai]

Ok thanks so much guys!

 

[Magwart]

Honestly, the most important thing to prevent them from recurring is to ACTUALLY GET RID OF IT when one hits -- that means paying extra to culture (as you are doing), matching up the right antibiotic according to the culture (even if it means paying vastly more for the right drug instead of the "usual" cheap one), and then keeping the dog on it long enough to work.



There's a pretty good theory out there that these "recurring" UTIs are actually just an "evolving" infection that hasn't been fully treated and gets smarter about resisting abx every time. It gets knocked down to a sub-clinical level with each round of treatment and then hides out in the body, waiting for an opportunity to rebuild itself.



Instead of focusing on supplements, I'd really focus on getting rid of this thing.

 

[Momto2GSDs]

Hi all!

My 3yr old female 57lbs GSD is diagnosed with UTI today. She is put on generic antibiotics but the vet is waiting for the result of culture analysis. The vet told me this is super common among female dogs and there is no known cause for this.

Just wondering if any experienced folks here can share some advice regarding what I can do to try to prevent this from happening again.

OP did exactly the right thing by going to the vet and getting a culture done and an abx for the problem, as we all would.


OP's question was about how to prevent UTI's from reoccurring....


Supplements/Herbals etc (not all) IF used correctly and not over-used, can be of assistance for many things.





Dabai...just fyi: "dogs who experience more than three UTIs per year — or more than two UTIs in six months — are defined as having chronic or recurrent UTIs" Dr. Donna Spector, DVM

 

[Magwart]

OP, a different perspective:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/health/cranberry-juice-uti.html
and
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2576821

 

[Jax08]

Instead of focusing on supplements, I'd really focus on getting rid of this thing.

Maggie is right. I had a hard time getting Jax over a UTI. We finally had to do a sterile sample, culture that and put her on 30 days of abx.

I used to be all about adding supplements but I found many just do not work. I do like the D-Mannose (I've used it myself and it has the studies to back it), and it can be used with the abx, to help support.

If it reoccurs, I would do more testing such as the sterile sample and possibly an ultrasound.

 

[DaBai]

Ok thanks for the various inputs guys! Really appreciate them

Yeah I am definitely gonna hear the vet out on the result of the culture analysis and make sure that this UTI gets cured to the root. I think I will also add the supplement so that I would feel like I have done everything I could if this were to ever occur again. Let's hope not though, UTI and re-taking housebreaking 101 seriously suck!

 

[DaBai]

New development, culture analysis came back and the vet said the generic antibiotics she was on should be working. But she has been taking them since Oct 25th and she still leaks urine and wets herself now and then even though I take her out every 2 hours during day time, and every 4 hours at night. She is also starting to throw up now and then (mostly after a meal, but sometimes throwing up pure water too). I am obviously taking her back to the vet today, just wondering if anyone know what this could be?

 

[Jax08]

I would want a full chem panel to check kidney function and an ultrasound. That sounds like more than a UTI>

 

[Momto2GSDs]

i would want a full chem panel to check kidney function and an ultrasound. That sounds like more than a uti>

yes!!!

 

[DaBai]

Update

8 days ago, the vet thought her throwing up was due to the medication she took. So she gave her an injection that should also work for the bacteria found through cultural analysis and asked me to stop the medications.

I can't bring myself waking up every night and take her out anymore so I set up a temporary bed at the living room and set up puppy pads besides my temporary bed so that she doesn't wet my queen size mattress, she wets those pads every single night but not a lot. She also threw up food yesterday, but that was the only time since the injection 8 days ago.

Called vet again today, they told me to do another urine analysis tmr and put her on special diet in the mean time while waiting for 7 more days for the injection to take full effect. If she still has issues 7 days later, I was told I should do x-rays to check for bladder stones.

Vet didn't mention chem panel and ultrasound. Could someone please let me know what disease those procedures are supposed to check so I can bring them up with my vet?

Thanks and fingers crossed.