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my doggie(gsd) is 6 months old now.he has a very temper,sharp mentality.till now he has bited 8 people including one of my younger brother.what shall i do?when ever he sees a new person entering our house he bites him immediately.he doesnt stop even if i hit him with a stick or something.and in other times hes really so cool.he becomes very angry if someone gets near to it while eating food.
 

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How hard does he bite? Please don't hit him with a stick, it's negative reinforcement. Try to use positive reinforcement. Do you ever redirect him to a toy?

Another thing you could try would be "greet" What you do is you put the dog in a sit-stay near the door. When the person enters, the dog has to be calm, once it is, let the dog sniff the person's hand. After that, have the person pet the dog's back NOT the head. This can take awhile as with many commands, but as long as you practice with treats and positive reinforcement, it is doable.

It also sounds like your dog is food aggressive. Try hand feeding him for awhile. Do you do NILIF? I would make the dog do a command, or work for the food in some way before he got a handful.

Is your dog socialized? How much do you walk a day?
 

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Is he biting to be aggressive or is it play biting? I know that play biting can hurt alot and draw blood on occasion.

I would try to teach him to sit and stay while new people enter the house. I also ask anyone coming into my house to ignore the dog for at least 5 minutes when they first come into our home. She is allowed to follow them around once they are in the house but she doesn't get any attention from them until she is calmed down.

My pup is 4 months old but she does like to play bite all the time. We are constantly working on her with it. I would not suggest hitting her with a stick or even your hand ever. You don't want her to be afraid when you or anyone else goes to pet her with your hand. Keep treats with you at all times and reward her when she doesn't bite and stays calm around people.

I would make sure she is getting plenty of excercise. Maybe she is bored and wants to play, play, play.....
 

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Please read the following post by Chris Wild from another thread, it will shine some light on a dogs mindset when "disobeying". As far as what to do to stop this, I will leave that up to the pro's around these parts. There are some great people on this forum that can provide you with positive alternatives to what you are currently using. I certaintly hope you find the help you need...

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Originally Posted By: Craig88I agree with what you are saying Chris but IMO there needs to be punishment when the dog disobeys or disrespects its master.
Perhaps. But let me ask this... WHY would a dog disobey or disrespect it's handler? What is in it for the dog? When he obeys, good things happen (food, treats, praise, play). When he disobeys, bad things happen (correction). Dogs are very simple creatures at heart. They will always repeat behaviors that have brought success in the past, and avoid behaviors that brought negative consequences. They don't have any complicated motivations... they merely do what they believe will earn them the things they want. So why would a dog choose disobedience, knowing it will deny him what he wants and likely bring about something he doesn't want?

Answer: he won't. Yes, on the rare occasion the dog may disobey, but usually the reason behind that isn't obstinance but rather he sees it would be beneficial to him NOT to obey in that situation. In other words, the potential reward for disobedience is stronger than the reward for obedience, or consequence for disobedience.

When this happens, it's generally the handler's fault. The handler either has not properly motivated the dog, or has placed the dog in a situation or amidst distractions that are above the dog's ability to work in at that stage of training. When training is done RIGHT, with the handler possessing the higest value reward for the dog, and the dog understanding that his obedience earns that, things go rather smoothly and the dog isn't likely to give the handler the "big paw".

Another common cause for "disobedience" is confusion on the dogs part. Handlers are often very quick to jump on the assumption that the dog is beind disobedient, when in reality he is confused. Dogs make mistakes, don't clearly hear commands, or when any of the zillion factors in a training session are different from before (different environment, different body language or tone of voice from the handler) it can lead to the dog being confused about what is being asked. No matter how many times he's done "sit" before, if for some reason he seems to forget "sit" on any given training day, 99% of the time it's not because he's being a prick and deciding to blow the handler off. It's because he's confused. Is it fair to correct a dog for confusion? Not in my mind. That is the handler punishing the dog for what is actually his (the handler's) fault.

Same for lack of respect. If the dog doesn't respect the handler (and IMO what is construed as disobedience is very, very rarely a lack of respect, no matter how quickly people like to assume it is), again who's fault is that? The dog's? Or the handler who didn't build a proper relationship of trust and respect with the dog? And if the dog doesn't respect the handler, is the handler going to be able to beat respect into the dog? No. It doesn't work that way. It's just going to further destroy the dog's respect and trust for the handler, and replace it with fear.

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My dog fortunately respects me and most likely is not a naturally agressive or socially agressive dog so when I correct him for not downing he never gives me any hassles unlike another dog in our class that growls when forced down and usually always breaks its down and bolts. The trainer actually tried correcting my dog awhile back and received some vicious growling and nearly a bite, which is fine IMO.

What I'm trying to get at is the lady who's gsd often bites her is too soft on the dog and as a result the dog takes advantage of her and zaps her. I'm sure this would not be a problem if she was more strict on the dog; not necessarily bopping it but just enforcing a strong correction when the dog bites her for no good reason.
Well, maybe this dog is one of the very rare ones that is truly handler aggressive, disrespectful, and more or less crazy. But I'd still place money on the likelihood that this is an issue that was created by the handler, and not because she's too soft, but because she has always met the dog's aggression with further aggression of her own. It's a somewhat natural thing to do really, and thus a common mistake. First, when a dog gets nasty our inclination is to protect ourselves by going into our own version of defense drive, and fight back. Second, it can also be natural to think that by providing a strong negative consequence for the behavior we will cause the dog not to choose that behavior. Sometimes that works, more often it just escalates the aggression.

Let me tell as story of a similar situation to help illlustrate.

Last fall I went down to trial at friend's SchH club out of state. Sunday after the trial, the judge hung around to do a bit of training and somewhat of an impromptu seminar. One of the club members, with a 2yo bitch from our breeding, was having problems with the dog outing the toy in obedience, and handler aggression over outing the toy. She asked the judge to give her some pointers. This was the first time I'd heard of this issue with the dog, and knowing the dogs and bloodlines as I do (and owning a littermate) I had suspicions about what was causing this (pretty much what I wrote above) so when she got the dog out to work with the judge, I had my eyes glued to the field.

Brings dog out, plays some tug, locks up the tug and asks the dog for the out, and the dog *immediately* starts snarling at her, but still holding the tug. She gives the dog a harsh pinch collar correction, while repeating out in a very harsh voice, dog lets go of the toy and lunges for her hand. Repeat a few times. So the judge steps in, and much the same scenario ensues. Only instead of correct her with the pinch collar, he hangs her, preventing her from biting him and choking her off the toy. A very commonly practiced attempt to deal with this sort of situation, and not a surprising one from a European old school trainer.

After beating my head soundly against the nearest tree, I stepped in before this could escalate by merely asking if I could give it a try. Judge looks at me like I'm nuts, but with handler's permission he hands over the now gasping dog and toy. I drop the leash (don't need it), tease the dog with the toy and we have a nice little game of tug. Thank God this is a hard dog would was more than willing to reengage in drive and play with me despite what had happened a minute ago.

So we play a bit, and then I lock up, and ask for the out. Not surprisingly she immediately starts to snarl while still holding the toy. I just ignored that. And rather than grab the leash or collar, I just laid my left hand flat under her chin while still holding the tug with my right hand, and using some light backwards and upwards pressure guided her into a sit. And I waited. The look on her face was pure confusion when I did NOT give her the fight she was expecting, or react to her snarling in any way. So we sat there for a minute, me just lightly holding the tug with my hand under her chin, showing no emotion. Her facial expression changing from one of fear and aggression over the fight she expected, to outright confusion, eventually to relaxing. Guess she thought just sitting there with both of us holding it wasn't all that bad, and certainly better than what she expected when I had asked for the out. Now that she was relaxed and calm, I asked for the out again. She immediately tensed and started snarling again, so we just waited a bit longer until she'd relaxed again. On the 3rd out command, her eyes started to squint and I could see her fighting her natural reaction to start snarling again, but she didn't. Instead, with an expression of confusion but also a little bit of a light bulb, she very tentatively let go of the toy.. and was immediately rewarded with a happy release and me coming alive with the toy to play again.

Next time I locked up and asked for the out, there was no snarling. She didn't let go either, so we waited again and a few moments later I asked her again to out, and she did, though tentatively. Another big party and play session as a reward. Next time I locked up and asked for the out, she popped right off, tail wagging, ears up, happily looking forward to the play session she expected as reward for the out. I worked her several more times that day, and every time I got a nice, clean, happy out without a hint of "handler aggression".

Why?
Am I some miracle working dog whisperer? No.
Did she respect me more than the judge or her handler? Well, now she probably does because to her I'm sure I seem much more sane and predictable, making me more fun and more worth listening to. But at the start of this of course she didn't. She doesn't even know me. She was 2 years old and the last time I'd seen her previously she was 8 weeks.

She did it because it was in her best interest to do so. Fun things happened when she outed. So why not out? And when I showed her that I had no interest in getting in a fight with her, she was happy about that. She didn't want to fight either, she just wanted to have fun and play and train. But she'd been well taught to expect a fight.

Had I met her aggression head on with some of my own, like everyone else was doing, I'd have gotten bitten too. And it just would have cemented in her head that yes indeed, the handler is going to pick a fight with her every time over the out, so she'd better be ready for that fight and be ready to get in the first blow. No doubt, as is the case with most situations like this, she's been hoping that her initial display would scare the handler off and make them back down so the fight didn't happen. Dogs don't like fighting with their handlers, but if the handler teaches the dog to expect it and shows them time and time again that is exactly what will happen, the dog fights with the handler.. because that is what they were taught.

To me this isn't rocket science. It's simply understanding the dog's motivations, how they think and why they do what they do, and recognizing how WE affect their behavior for good or ill. This whole situation was pretty depressing to me, made even moreso by the looks of complete wonder on the faces of the dog's handler (who's been training SchH a lot longer than I have), an experienced SV judge and trainer, and all of the club members. The fact that they thought they'd witnessed some miracle when she'd happily out without a hint of aggression is just really, really depressing and shows how widespread the belief that this is a dog problem (rather than a handler problem), the philosophy of trying to beat that type of behavior out of the dog, and a general lack of understanding of why it happens and that WE create it, has become.
 

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Originally Posted By: bhanumy doggie(gsd) is 6 months old now.he has a very temper,sharp mentality.till now he has bited 8 people including one of my younger brother.what shall i do?when ever he sees a new person entering our house he bites him immediately.he doesnt stop even if i hit him with a stick or something.and in other times hes really so cool.he becomes very angry if someone gets near to it while eating food.
You have some serious aggression issues. It sounds like your dog was not properly socialized. Has he ever met with strangers? Other dogs? Do you do any activities? These are all part of raising a well rounded GS.

Sounds like your GS is biting out of fear. I would suggest getting some some. Also, where do you live. Because a dog that bit 8 different people, would no longer be around, he would be labeled an aggressive dog and order to be put down.

I highly suggest you find someone (a professional) to help you. ! You need to work on commands, sit, stay,recalls, leave it.

I have to ask, when the dog does something wrong (like bit your younger brother), what kind of correction do you use? Because beating the dog with the stick is not really proper. I honestly think you should go to someone, and show you how to properly train your dog. I promise some of these issues will go away.
 

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It was the only other post so I figured people could see if there is anything in there that might help.

And yeah, IF (big if) that was not just a funny remark and that behavior was inadvertenly encouraged, it could be a part of the issue that might help people to respond well.

Of course, I could be all wrong!
 

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OMG. Is this a serious question?
First PLEASE do not hit your PUPPY. The best thing would to keep him contained when visitors come over. Get professional help.

Never easy to say but prehaps you are not dog people. Nothing more admirable than someone that can put the needs of the animal ahead of the desires of the owner.
 

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hey my dog doesnt bite while playing.he is very serious..........he bites immediately with a immense anger in its face.and it doesnt even go to other dogs also.what shall i do?do i have to take it to a trainer?

here are some pics of him--


he looks like a puppy till now.but he acts like a tiger or something.everyone is afraid to see it also.
 

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Of course people are afraid of him. He bites people, acts agressive and you allow this. It is your job to teach your pup how to interact with people, and beating him will not teach him anything except to be afraid of you. IMO it will also increase how aggressive he ends up being. Dogs have a natural instinct to survive and you beating him will just reinforce his need to protect himself.

I have seen several pictures of him with a chain on, why is he chained? Where is he chained up? What is the purpose of leaving him on a chain like that?

GSD's dont want to be chained up, they want to be with their owners.
 

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You need to stop this behavior, but hitting the puppy is NOT the correct way to do it.

It sounds like he needs socialization to people.. positive experiences with them to show him that the fear and aggression he is currently showing are not necessary or appropriate.

And he needs training. He needs to be taught how to behave and you need to get control over him. And I'm sorry to say (and mean no offense) but the fact that this is happening and you are hitting him with a stick to try to fix it, indicates that YOU need some training too.

I think the best thing you could do is to find a good trainer who is familiar with working breeds, GSDs, and aggression problems, and start working with that trainer to address these problems and learn how you should handle them. Without that, the problems are just going to grow, and so will the dog, and that means someone is going to get seriously hurt someday.
 

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First I want to say that not everyone on this board is located in North America, other countries have different practices for having and containing a dog.

bhanu, first in some pictures I do you you dog on a chain, is this where people enter your house? If yes, this young dog has been left alone too much and feels it is his job to defend what he considers HIS territory. Make sure when people come over that he isn't chained up there. Next turn times when people come over great experiences for you pup. Getting hit with a stick is not a good experience. But getting treats from the family and the visitor would be a good experience.

Leave the pup alone when it is eating it's food. Have a place out of the main traffic area where you pup can eat in peace.

There are a lot of things that can be done to turn this pup around, but hitting and yelling aren't going to help you.

What commands does your pup know, sit, down, ETC. What training have you done with your pup?

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Where do you live? Are there trainers available?

Hard to know where to start to help you with your 'baby'. Cause that's what he is. And he need calm LEADERSHIP and guidance. Not to be beaten with a stick AFTER he does something wrong.

You need, instead, to teach him what you DO want. So you can praise and reward.

Don't let anyone in your house until you figure this out.

Are you able to get out with him for miles of walking everyday? Can you find a place you can play with him and have him off leash? Swimming? Playing ball? Fun stuff with you to take his edge off?

Have you been properly socializing him in and outside the home? Has he met hundreds of people by now? Gone on car rides? Met new dogs? New places and new situations he will look to you for guidance.

He's the perfect age to start general obedience classes, so hopefully there are some available you and he can attend.

Hopefully you didn't get him to be a guard dog, so are thinking ANY of his behavior is proper, correct and what we look for to protect our house and family. NONE of this would be allowed in a puppy being raised for protection.

Raising a calm, confident puppy who is feels secure in the world makes the best adult dogs for any of our needs.

Here's some sites about what our dogs need from us (calm leadership thru life, not us being crazed and beating them AFTER they do something wrong........... again..................) Setting them up instead to succeed and to the right thing because we are giving them the life skills they need.

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/puppack.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/leadership.html

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/relationshipbased.html

http://home.flash.net/~astroman/primer1.html

http://www.vonfalconer.com/puppy.html
 
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