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I was just wondering how many pp on here have dogs with IBD. My previous GSD, Shane, had eosinaphiliphtic (sp?) IBD and so does Chance (both severe). Both diagnosed with blood work and Shane with biopsies. I have done extensive research on the disease over the last nine years when Shane was first diagnosed and I know GSD's are prone to it, but wondering how many pp here have dogs that have it. Just wondering how prevalent it really is.
 

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I just lost my 3.5 year old dog from complications from the disease. He got the best care at the UFla Vet School- we had switched his diet many times plus he was on prednisone/azathioprine and the last month or two had tried cyclosporine then budesinide which is used for peoples Chrons disease. This is an autoimmune disease inherited from a recessive gene.

He was diagnosed after biopsies at 18 months old. We had it mostly under control for two years. The School tells me that in 85% of cases they can control it except my best friend.

The internists at the school tell me this breed is full of potential health issues. This I know- my 7 month old import gsd has hip issues and needs further evaluation there. I can not win with these dogs.
 

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My dog, Jones, has moderate IBD. We initially used imuran with him, but I didn't feel like it was doing much for him, so I took him off of it. We now are using food that is custom made for him, along with tylan, and he's doing pretty well. I doubt he'll ever be completely "normal," but for him, he's stable. He looks great, feels great, and doesn't have any major symptoms, so I'm leaving him alone for now. Should something change, I'll reassess the situation.
 

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I have found with Chance that the Tylan is a life saver. Have reduced all his meds and almost off the metronidazole and sulfasalzine. Still on 15 mg of pred, but working on that as well to reduce it. Chance is doing fantastic right now. He started getting sick at 4 1/2 months. very young according to my research. I feel like all I have lived and breathed for the last 9 yrs is IBD! Shane got sick at 1 1/2 yrs old. Took 6 months to get it under control and almost died. Amazing to me is how once you, if you are lucky, hit on the right food and meds, the turnaround is almost instantaneous. However, my vet says some dogs never get stable.

Has anyone found that with a dog with IBD, other health issues are more prevalent as well? Shane seemed to have more problems with respiratory infections and Chance has more with skin issues and abcesses with cuts or scrapes. Some may have to do with the prednisone and suppressed immune system issues, but not all of them. With Shane though, once he had the IBD under control for awhile, the other issues seemed to decrease. Hoping that happens with Chance and his skin issues as well.

Amuaro, just want to say I am so sorry for your loss. I am finding that this disease is one of the most heartbreaking and financially devasting. The money spent to actually get a definitive diagnosis can be beyond most owners means. I was fortunate at the time to have the money to diagnose Shane with biopsies. Had to rely on bloodwork with Chance and the experience I had been through previously. Still, it has been hard paying for and finding the right medications. So sincerely sorry for your loss.
 

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Jones was about 10 weeks when his issues started, but he was about a year when we finally got him diagnosed. It's been a long, frustrating, and very expensive experience. The food we have made for him is ridiculously expensive, but he LOVES it, and does well on it, so it's totally worth it.

Jones definitely has other issues, but whether they're connected to his IBD, I have no idea. He has all sorts of allergies, has moderate HD, and has some undiagnosed neurological issues. But even with all of those things, he is the happiest dog in the world, and we keep him very active. People who meet him never guess that he has any health issues at all.
 

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10 wks! Wow, that is young. From talking to my vet and my own experience, I am finding that IBD is not usually the only issue. Chance has other physical issues as well. Like yours though, the sweetest baby ever! When Shane was sick, you knew it, but with Chance, even when he was emaciated and looked like death walking, he was happy and active. Personally, I am thinking the younger they get sick like that, they have no idea they are supposed to be any other way, so they have no idea what it is like to be healthy and therefore, sometimes act like nothing is wrong since they don't know any different. Shane was healthy for a year before getting sick, so when he did, he was miserable. Now that Chance is finally healthy and in what I consider remission, he is more than making up for being sick since a baby and is more active, curious and less neurotic. Thinking the neurotic, shyness and overall behavioral issues were caused by his illness at such a young age. Working with a trainer to overcome his issues now that he is feeling better and the turnaround is amazing.
 

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Aww...poor Chance trying to make up for lost time! Jones, luckily, hasn't had any behavioral issues, but who knows what will happen in the future. He's so young that it makes me nervous with regards to keeping him healthy for the next (I hope) 10 years. If he can stay where he is at now, then I'll be thrilled.
 

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Chin up! Once I had Shane stabilized with the right food and meds, he lived till he was 7 3/4 years. We would have the occasional setback if he got into food he was not supposed to have (got a couple pieces of pepperoni at a party and lost 7 lbs in a week and had to up his meds for a month!) He died 10/09 from adrenal cancer, no idea if it was related, but they were the best years! Would not trade them for anything! I do have some pics in an album of him before he died and he was happy and beautiful. He loved to go camping! If you EVER need to write to vent or need to talk, please let me know. I want to be helpful to anyone else who has this problem. Support from others who know how you feel is sometimes more helpful than talking to pp who really don't understand how hard it really is.
 

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Thanks so much for the offer of support! I will definitely let you know if I need to vent. I've done a lot of that over the last 2 years of Jones' life. I'm glad he hasn't had any idea how much stress and worry he's caused me. =)

I do appreciate each and every day with him, and feel lucky to have any of the time with him I've had. I will keep him the happiest and healthiest dog he can be.
 

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Siena was diagnosed with IBD when she was 5 years old. Intestinal surgery found an enlarged lymph node which they biopsied. She was very young, but it tested positive. We can't give her chicken as it flares her, but she is 4 now and we've got it all under control. Meds never did anything for her.
 

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I have found from my own experience and been lucky as well, that if you can get it under control with food and meds, most dogs can do very well. My vet says he has some patients though that have to adjust food and meds every month. Thankful neither of my babies have been that bad. THankful every day that I have a wonderful vet who works with me and listens to me if I bring him new research. He has helped me make the best of this. If I could bottle him up and send him to everyone who has a dog with this disease I would!
 

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Hi all - I just did a search on this because I have an appointment for Judah to have a biopsy next Wednesday because my vet suspects he has IBD. I have no prior knowledge of this and after reading this post, I'm a little devastated. Judah is only 2 days shy of 8 months and I am already more attached to him than previous ones. I have been working with him to become my D.A.D [diabetic alert dog] and he already does great. I can't stand to see him sick. He has had diarrhea since we got him at 8 weeks. It never permanently clears up. I've already gone through home cooking chicken and rice, beef and rice and now he's on **** Van Patten's brand of sweet potatoes and venison. Last night was the first time he threw up...only diarrhea up to now. The vet already had a TLI test done and he said he had concerns about the results and that's why he wants him to have the endoscopy. I defintely am open to all information. Thanks.
 

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My 5 yr old GSD has also been diagnosed w/ IBD. I suspect he may have also developed SIBO & EPI, but I'm waiting on an appt with an internal medicine specialist to learn more. He has the symptoms to some extent of those in addition to the IBD, but tested negative some years back. Now I wonder how borderline he was. He probably should have been diagnosed with the IBD several years back too...but unfortunately he wasn't, which allowed the disease to progress further.

Mine is currently on probiotics (NOW acidophilus), L-Glutamine, and metronidazole. Fortunately his is a moderate case of IBD.

We keep ruling out more foods as time goes on though. So far, chicken, venison and lamb are definitely out.

He has done fantastic lately on Honest Kitchen Zeal formula though. It's expensive, but the only thing he was able to tolerate other than Hills i/d canned. I've been adding in some Wellness Simple Solutions Salmon & Rice formula, and hope to get to a 50/50 mix with the HK to help with the price.

If you do get a diagnosis from the biopsies of IBD, I would suggest getting a consult with an internal med specialist. I wish I had gotten one earlier, but better late than never I guess. Also, there is an excellent group for IBD dogs on yahoogroups.com. Very informative and supportive!
 

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I think IBD is a bit of a cop-out diagnosis with a GSD. They have all sorts of inflammatory disorders, and they have all sorts of digestive disorders, so, yes, they will often have the symptoms and biopsy results of IBD.

A number of these dogs can be treated with diet, supplements, and antibiotics before going to the serious drugs, much like Sienna was treated.

That's not to say that there aren't some very seriously ill dogs that do present exactly like crohn's disease. I sometimes wonder if these dogs would test positive for the PF dna test, since it's thought to be similar to crohn's. I think PuffinGirl tried just about everything one could try....
 

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Hi Lisa! You're right, I tried SO many things, and oddly enough, ended up with a routine that most IBD people would insist wouldn't work. We did initially go with the recommendations of the IMS who suggested a prescription diet and imuran, and after a couple months, I just wasn't noticing much of an improvement.

Jones gets a lower fat diet that is made specifically for him, out of foods that I've noticed he does better with. It's essentially home-cooked and then frozen for him. I did not go the novel protein/carb route with him because he has had most of the available proteins already, and I wanted to leave a couple to use in case things get worse in the future.

I also use several supplements for him, and do acupuncture every couple weeks. As it stands now, he's doing well, and has been stable for many months. He's still young, so we don't know what will happen in the future, but I prefer to keep him med-free as long as possible.
 

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We did the imuran for 2 months, but I wasn't noticing much of an improvement, and it was making me very nervous having him on it, so I talked to the IMS and we weaned him off. He's still not a completely "normal" dog, but he's got SO many issues, and I don't expect that he ever will be. He's normal for Jones though, so that makes me happy. =)
 

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Probiotics, L-Glutamine Treatment?

Mine is currently on probiotics (NOW acidophilus), L-Glutamine, and metronidazole. Fortunately his is a moderate case of IBD.
Hi everyone,

I know this forum is older. My beagle has been diagnosed with IBD (he had chronic vomiting that eventually progressed into anorexia) and we initially started treatment with Prednisone. It worked great! However, since then he has had to come off that because he had very high Bile Acids, and the massive amount of muscle wasting it caused (he can barely climb the stairs now). We are trying probiotics, L-Glutamine, and metronidazole. So far, he hasn't been responding well (it has only been 1 week though).

@Mika140 is your dog still doing well on this treatment? How long did it take for you to see results?

Thanks for your help.
 
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