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Zella, our 4 year old Pitbull, isn't doing so hot. A couple years ago she had a severe pancreatitis and was hospitalized for 10 days, $8,700 later. She pulled through it and did great for a while. This morning she started vomiting and has continued here and there through out the day. I know from previous experience with her and little onsets here and there that I have to withhold food and water for at least 24 hours to give her pancreas and digestive system a rest. It really stinks because if we bring her to the e-vet that's exactley what they are going to do with her, theres nothing they can really do. I just hope everything starts to settle down for her.I keep checking her gums to make sure they are pink and feeling her belly to make sure her temp is ok. I hate that there is nothing they can do for her. It's one of those waiting games and those are the worst! Usually pancreatitis is brought on by fatty foods or trauma to the pancreas...which she has had none of in her life. Poor Mr. Brody doesn't know whats going on. He keeps trying to get her to play with him. I had my husband take him outside in the dark and play ball with him to wear him out so he would leave her alone. Please keep my sweet girl in your prayers! She's my world and my best girl.
 

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So far as I know, they do not take water away from your dog at the vet and will give IV fluids. Are you feeding a home prepared or prescription diet to help prevent this? I'm so sorry your girl is hurting.
 

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My 18yo cat had pancreatitis last winter. I successfully treated her at home. I would be happy to share with you what I did (and have continued to do) if you would like.

I did put her on SubQ fluids twice a day at home as she would have been hooked up on an IV at the vets. Fluids are a very important part of the treatment in an acute phase.
 

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IV Fluids, antiemetics, pain meds, bloodwork to indicate whether this is a pancreatic episode or some other issue causing similar symptoms....there is a reason vets spend all those years in college. Take her to the vet.
 

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I will keep you and Zella in my prayers.
 

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Thank you to the people who have wished her well and have offered their advice...I appreciate it. Yes she is on a a prescription diet and has been for years and gets no other food or treats. I've been talking to my vet and he is still telling me to withhold water and food. To EchoGSD, I hope the next time you are worried about your dog somebody doesnt post rude and demeaning comments.
 

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.... Usually pancreatitis is brought on by fatty foods or trauma to the pancreas...
Actually pancreatitis is much more complicated than that. After they have pancreatitis they cannot tolerate fatty foods, but the initial cause can be infectious, parasites, tick diseases, vaccination, immune mediated, food allergies, and I may be missing some causes.

I would not restrict water. When it comes time to feed again, I would feed homecooked meat with vegetables and no grains. I would make plans to have the amylase and lipase checked later, if those are good indicators in your dog - in some dogs they are not. If it does not resolve, antibiotics and possibly other meds (like panacur) might be needed. You do need some way to monitor this. You should be able to talk to your vet about treating at home, and doing the bloodwork in the office.
 

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Actually pancreatitis is much more complicated than that. After they have pancreatitis they cannot tolerate fatty foods, but the initial cause can be infectious, parasites, tick diseases, vaccination, immune mediated, food allergies, and I may be missing some causes.

I would not restrict water. When it comes time to feed again, I would feed homecooked meat with vegetables and no grains. I would make plans to have the amylase and lipase checked later, if those are good indicators in your dog - in some dogs they are not. If it does not resolve, antibiotics and possibly other meds (like panacur) might be needed. You do need some way to monitor this. You should be able to talk to your vet about treating at home, and doing the bloodwork in the office.
The internal specialist that she saw after the first episode told me that fatty foods is a precursor to pancreatitis. He also told me that he has seen perfectley healthy dogs like Zella, have this problem. I do trust him and his knowledge, he is the one who saved her life with the acute episode and sits on the board of the University of Florida vet school. After she does have a flare up, she is restricted to a home made diet and gradually adding in her low residue food. She will be receiving sub q fluids and blood work. I've dealt with this before with her. It's the same as people, sometimes you can't explain why things go wrong when your doing everything right.
 

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Thank you Casey :) She's starting to perk up a little bit. I've learned my lesson telling stories or asking certain questions...some people just want to make you feel like you don't know what your talking about or that they know everything. I was talking to Brodys breeder today, I sent her pictures of Brody because she always wants to keep tabs on her puppies...which is a nice thing! She was telling me to watch out for these forums because people can be brutal on here!! Ughhh!! She's right! I hope Blitz is doing good, and that her paw is feeling much better! It sounds like it is, since she went to training :)
 

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LisaT knows her stuff. We usually work in tandem in the health section. :) There really are all kinds of things that can cause pancreatitis, not just fatty foods. Here is an excellent article: Canine Pancreatitis - Whole Dog Journal Article

Other (more chronic) diseases have similar symptoms and often animals who have had pancreatitis end up with IBD or other digestive disorders. Sometimes IBD can be the precursor. If you are sure it is pancreatitis then I would do the following:

Restrict food and water in order to let the pancreas rest. If you have SubQs at home I would use those instead of water right now. If the vomiting and other symptoms stop then I would start a homemade diet in 24 hours and feed very small meals 5 or 6 times a day. I would avoid grains and high fat meats and do something like sweet potato and chicken breast with a little canned pumpkin. I would be sure to start on digestive enzymes immediately if you're not already using those. And I would also look into something like Phytomucil as well as L-Glutamine to help heal the gut.

Keep us posted!
 

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Just hopping on here to add that I did not diagnose my cat on my own. I took her in to the vet and internist for diagnostic testing. I think you were waiting to go to the regular vet tomorrow (and skipping the e-vet) but did just want to be sure anyone reading this understands that diagnosing serious and potentially life threatening medical problems at home is not a wise idea.
 

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IV Fluids, antiemetics, pain meds, bloodwork to indicate whether this is a pancreatic episode or some other issue causing similar symptoms....there is a reason vets spend all those years in college. Take her to the vet.
... To EchoGSD, I hope the next time you are worried about your dog somebody doesnt post rude and demeaning comments.
I know you're upset as any of us would be in a similar situation, however, I don't see where suggesting that you take your girl to the vet is rude. While you're probably correct as to what her problem is, IMHO I agree with EchoGSD that she should be evaulated by a vet to ensure you're following the proper treatment protocal.

Sending prayers that she'll be feeling better soon!
 

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sending my prayers and healing thoughts for her :hugs:
 

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Just to update everyone, Zella is doing much better. Her bloodwork was sent off just to make sure there is nothing else going on. But from looking over her last flare up, the vet says he certain that it was most likely a flare up since her symptoms were exactley the same. She did receive some Sub q injections. She wasn't as dehydrated as she was last time. She did drink some water last night and was already whining for breakfast. I'm starting her on her bland diet, it's cooking as we speak and she's standing next to the stove waiting for it. Thank you again for your thoughts and advice. I do think that some people can phrase stuff in a nicer way. It's not just in this tread its others also. I myself come on this website because you can learn alot from other members, share funny stories, or are offered words of comfort in a bad time. Maybe I'm just being a little defensive because I have seen on here that people can be a little rude to others...everyone has to admit that. The reason I thought EchoGSD was being rude, was the sarcastic comment of thats why vets go to school for a long time. Maybe I took it the wrong way, and if so I apologize. But I think we can all agree that some people can be a little poopy towards others. Thanks again for all the good advice and well wishes.
 

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Just to update everyone, Zella is doing much better. Her bloodwork was sent off just to make sure there is nothing else going on. But from looking over her last flare up, the vet says he certain that it was most likely a flare up since her symptoms were exactley the same. She did receive some Sub q injections. She wasn't as dehydrated as she was last time. She did drink some water last night and was already whining for breakfast. I'm starting her on her bland diet, it's cooking as we speak and she's standing next to the stove waiting for it. Thank you again for your thoughts and advice. I do think that some people can phrase stuff in a nicer way. It's not just in this tread its others also. I myself come on this website because you can learn alot from other members, share funny stories, or are offered words of comfort in a bad time. Maybe I'm just being a little defensive because I have seen on here that people can be a little rude to others...everyone has to admit that. The reason I thought EchoGSD was being rude, was the sarcastic comment of thats why vets go to school for a long time. Maybe I took it the wrong way, and if so I apologize. But I think we can all agree that some people can be a little poopy towards others. Thanks again for all the good advice and well wishes.
Hey, you're going through a lot right now. Great to hear things are swinging around. Couple puppy-prayers heading your way...:D
 

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^^^ Thanks Kelly's Buddy :)
 

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Lesley1905: I am so happy to hear that your Zella is doing better. I can tell she is so loved and cared for, and I can't imagine what it must feel like for you to see her suffering through one of those flare ups and not knowing where it will end. God bless.

p.s. the image of her standing by the stove and waiting for her food is really, really cute.
 
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