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OK, so everyone on this forum has been so great with questions about Ares I thought maybe some of you could help me with our Kitten?

This morning I dropped Kitten off to be neutered, paid for his procedure, medication and aftercare. I went back at 3 this afternoon and was told I had and $80 balance:eek: I explained that I had paid them this morning and pulled out my receipt and the receptionist gets this look on her face and asks "noone called you?!" I said I hadn't gotten any calls all day but checked my phone to be sure and then started to panic slightly because obviously something had happened and no one told me about it. So she rushed off and got the supervisor who asks me to sit down and explains that Kitten had an undecened testicle and needed a more complicated surgery and that was where the extra cost came from.
So I totally flipped out and started ranting and raving aat them for perforing a surgery without my permission and putting my kitty through this when he was still so little and saying they should have called so I could tell them NOT to do the procedure, it could wait until he was bigger. Luckily my boyfriend's mother was there and calmed down the whole thing and explained I wasn't trying to get out of paying them I was just upset. (understatement of the century btw)

So basically I have a kitten that has no idea he is supposed to stay qiuet and calm and a 85lbs German Shepherd that doesn't realize he can't play with his best friend. Also I don't know what to do about all these extra stitches and incision on the kitten or how to get him to swallow pills twice a day for a week

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Get a dog crate for the kitten and crate him with his litter box, etc.

For pills, best/easiest way to do it is to open his mouth and shove them down the hatch. ;)
 

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agree - crate him....

You may have to scruff the kitten a bit to pill him, or wrap him in a towel...smearing some butter, non onion powder containing baby food or canned cat food on the pill sometimes helps them accept you pilling them...

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The best way to give a pill to a cat is to point their head straight up. Hold the head up with the mouth pointing at the ceiling. With the pill in between your thumb and index finger, pry the mouth open with your middle finger and simply drop the pill down the hatch.
A vet showed me that when I told her how difficult it was to give pills. She showed me on my cat and I was shocked. Never had a problem again.
It takes a little practice, but you'll have it down to a science in no time.
 

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Sorry for your poor kitty I can't believe they didn't call you. I agree crating him with litter, food, water, blanky, etc would be best for him. I've had to do that with a cat after a spay. As far as giving the pill what the PP's suggested was great - the only other thing I've been taught to do is after getting the pill in very gently blow in their face. Also, make sure they swallow it before you let them go cats can be very clever.

While I'm sure most of us have seen this before I just thought I'd post it for some laughs (obviously not actual advice). :)
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HOW TO GIVE YOUR CAT A PILL
IN TWENTY EASY STEPS

Sit on sofa. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your elbow as though you were going to give a bottle to a baby. Talk softly to it.


With right hand, position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. (be patient) As cat opens mouth pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow. Drop pill into mouth. Let go of cat, noticing the direction it runs.


Pick the pill up off the floor and go get the cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process. Sit on floor in kitchen, wrap arm around cat as before, drop pill in mouth. Let go of cat, noticing the direction it runs.


Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. Scoot across floor to pick up pill, and go find the cat. Bring it back into the kitchen. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten. Drop pill into mouth.


Pry claws from back legs out of your arm. Go get the cat, pick up half-dissolved pill from floor and drop it into garbage can.


Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of closet. Call spouse from backyard. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.


Retrieve cat from curtain rod, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered Doulton figures from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.


Get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.


Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.


Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with rubber band.


Fetch screwdriver from garage and put door back on hinges. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Throw T-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.


Call fire department to retrieve cat from tree across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take another pill from foil wrap.


Tie cat's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed, force cat's mouth open with small spanner. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Hold head vertically and pour one cup of water down throat to wash pill down.


Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call at furniture shop on way home to order new table.


Get last pill from bottle. Go into bathroom and get a fluffy towel. Stay in the bathroom with the cat, and close the door.

Sit on bathroom floor, wrap towel around kitty, leaving only his head exposed. Cradle kitty in the crook of your arm, and pick up pill off of counter.


Retrieve cat from top of shower door (you didn't know that cats can jump 5 feet straight up in the air, did you?), and wrap towel around it a little tighter, making sure its paws can't come out this time. With fingers at either side of its jaw, pry it open and pop pill into mouth. Quickly close mouth (his, not yours).


Sit on floor with cat in your lap, stroking it under the chin and talking gently to it for at least a half hour, while the pill dissolves.


Unwrap towel, open bathroom door. Wash off scratches in warm soapy water, comb your hair, and go find something to occupy your time for 7-1/2 hours.


Arrange for SPCA to get cat and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters.
 

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The last time I had kittens s/n (I had a whole litter of rescues) I kept them all on "crate rest" for several days to a week to keep them from getting too active, and used shredded paper for litter (regular litter can be bad for the incision.)
If he bothers the stitches you may need to get a cone or cover them. I had one kitten who decided to mess with her stitches, and needed a cone.

For the meds, you could try using Pill Pockets to get him to eat the pills. Even if he won't take them as treats, you can still use the Pill Pockets. My vet suggested I use them when I pill my cats even though they won't eat the pill pockets like a treat because it covers any bad flavor of the pills. So even though I have to "pill" the cats (tilt the head up, pop the pill in their mouth and hold it closed while rubbing the throat until they swallow or lick their lips) I still put the pills in Pill Pockets first because they struggle and try to spit the pill out a lot less that way.
 

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Rubbing the throat has been proven ineffective. It makes animals STOP swallowing, not actually induce swallowing.
 

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my vet gave my kitten liquid pain meds that I mixed into wet food, we put her in a crate and kept a cone on her, but that didn't last long, gave her paper litter or shredded newspaper as sand litter can be bad for the incision.
 

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Rubbing the throat has been proven ineffective. It makes animals STOP swallowing, not actually induce swallowing.
no kidding I have to force feed my dog her glucosamine pill because she won't eat it and i'm out of peanut butter so I just shove it in the back of her throat as far as I can get it and clamp her mouth shut and wait until she swallows it
 

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Rubbing the throat has been proven ineffective. It makes animals STOP swallowing, not actually induce swallowing.
It seems to work for mine, the way I do it they swallow. :shrug:
Sometimes I rub or touch their nose instead, which often makes them lick and generally if they lick their nose they also swallow.
 

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Thanks for all the advice everyone and Xander, it doesn't matter how many times I read that I still laugh. We ended up crushing the pill and mixing it with his food and he has a teensy cone that stops him from touching all those stitches.
Our only issue now is getting him to behave until he heals, he has about a hundred new toys to keep him occupied (courtesy of my boyfriend's mother who is visiting us and feels bad for him) but he is still restless. We have a glass door that leads from our bedroom to the bacony and the Kitten and Ares sit on opposite sides of the glass and just look at each other, it's possibly the saddest thing I've seen in my life. Like their noses are squished against the glass and every once in a while Kitten reaches up with a paw and push to see if the glass is gone.

Only 6 more days off this.....
 

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THANK YOU for neutering your cat .
With an undescended testicle you would have had to do it sooner or later or possibly lose the cat to cancer .
I've spent thousands on the kittens from pregnant cats dropped off at my place. That includes taking care of the kittens who had eyes glued shut , upper respiratory infections, internal and external parasites and smelly poop that could rip the nose off your face -- ohh the memory. We also neutered / spayed each and every kitten as part of the adoption. Finally we caught the mum cat in a human trap , second year , second batch -- and had her spayed , without one penny of consideration from this cat specialist vet. Oh and I forgot vaccinations and rabies for all.

pilling a cat -- get the pill , hold back the chin, put pill at back of tongue , offer a sardine --

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THANK YOU for neutering your cat .
With an undescended testicle you would have had to do it sooner or later or possibly lose the cat to cancer .
I've spent thousands on the kittens from pregnant cats dropped off at my place. That includes taking care of the kittens who had eyes glued shut , upper respiratory infections, internal and external parasites and smelly poop that could rip the nose off your face -- ohh the memory. We also neutered / spayed each and every kitten as part of the adoption. Finally we caught the mum cat in a human trap , second year , second batch -- and had her spayed , without one penny of consideration from this cat specialist vet. Oh and I forgot vaccinations and rabies for all.

pilling a cat -- get the pill , hold back the chin, put pill at back of tongue , offer a sardine --

Carmen

I'm a total believer that only pros should consider breeding and I have no interest of dealing with any babies that he could have fathered. And I found him in a box on campus one after noon during the Thanksgiving break, obviously a dump from an unwanted litter,:mad: so I figured I would break the cycle. I only wish I had gotten there before his sibilings escaped the box, they roam the campus near the dorms just adding to the already HUGE stray and feral cat problem downtown.
My only issue with getting him neutered was that he was really too young for an abdominal surgery (14weeks) if I had known I would have waited for him to be bigger.
 

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I have had two pets that had testicles that had not come down. Never once did the vet tell me after the fact. They always did a full exam before surgery and were well aware of the fact. How is it that a vet can't tell that one testicle is there and one is not? In fact, that is why I had one cat and one dog nuetered before six months of age. the Testicle was not descended properly and needed to be taken care of. My cats undecended testicle was pre-cancerous and Shane's was so tiny the vet had to do extensive surgery to find it. Smaller than a cats and also was deformed. He did not charge extra either.
 
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