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From the time Shadow was just a couple of months old we have been putting a harness on her to go in the car. We do this for her safety and ours (she isn't crated, I can't fit a crate in the car) When the harness was introduced, she would wear it just for a wee while and we would walk her with it, and take her to the park to play. She would cower/cringe run away when the harness came out. We stopped using the harness for a bit.
Shadow is now 11months old she still hates the harness and the halti, she will run away and hide. If it's just the halti she will go to the front door eventually and hang her head, she looks so sad. If it's the harness that's come out she acts like she hates that thing so much and she is scared of it. My son dropped the harness on the kitchen floor the other day, he was on one side of the kitchen and Shadow was on the other, he called her over to him with treats and all. Nope she wouldn't even walk past it. I had to kick it aside, then she ran quickly past it to get to him. We have tried, treats, praise, leaving it off for a while, putting it on just for small amounts of time and praising her treating her etc etc. Nothing is working.

Any idea why she acts like this with the harness and a little with the halti?
Perhaps a discomfort to being confined/restrained?
How do we help her get over it?

Just thought I'd add once these things are on her, she acts like she couldn't care less, apart from the nose rub every now and then to remove the Halti (which does get removed once she has settled and walking nicely).

cheers Michelle
 

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For Phoenix, the Facial Alti was not working because it causes some "uncertainty", a feeling of being trapped. We then opted for EsayWalk Harness, which allows as good, or even better control, while keeping his face free.

Sometime, he hesitates to put his harness on, but once set, he totaly forget it.

It's a bit ridiculous question, but do you ever correct her using the Alti? We did not know the impact it had in the beginning and we did that mistake... Have you tried to play out after having put the harness? And remove it within seconds after? Maybe puting the Alti on randomly, from time to time, without especially going for a walk or a ride, could desensitize her???
 

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We've tried this with her Halti. The Halti she is not so bad with now, she knows when the Halti is on she has to work! When the Halti is off it's play time. She does play also with the Halti on, but she is more reserved.

The harness we use is just for the car, not for walking. She loves going in the car, just hates the harness. We have done the harness on=treat or play. Harness off. Harness back on =more treats or play. Nothing works, she hates it. When we do put it on she is fine with it within seconds, it's just getting it on her= she runs and hides or won't go near it.
 

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have you tried just leaving the harness laying where she can see it, smell it, pass by it but it not getting put on her? She may be uncomfortable with how it looks. I know it sounds strange but it does happen. Shelby does like the way slip chain but is perfectly fine with the prong. If she even see's our other dogs slip/choke chain, she gets twitchy, tail between the legs and runs for cover. We started leaving it out where she can see it and sniff at it and gradually she's getting better with it. She no longer runs when we pull it out but she's still twitchy and tail between the legs mode. We've never used a slip with her either so i honestly dont know if the slip was used abusively with her. I've also had cats who got freaked out by a crawling handle. Just like with people, we dont like seeing or looking at certain things because it makes us uncomfortable. Animals can suffer the same. she may not entirely associate the harness with leading to the fun of a car ride.
 

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Hmm the last time it was out we left it on the floor and she wouldn't even come in the room. Perhaps I'll just leave it on the floor away from door ways and let her come to it on her own. Maybe sprinkle some treats around and on top of it. We'll see how this goes. LOL I can just picture her getting brave enough to go near it and kill it(chew it up) ah well. We can only try.
 

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have you tried just leaving the harness laying where she can see it, smell it, pass by it but it not getting put on her? She may be uncomfortable with how it looks. I know it sounds strange but it does happen. Shelby does like the way slip chain but is perfectly fine with the prong. If she even see's our other dogs slip/choke chain, she gets twitchy, tail between the legs and runs for cover. We started leaving it out where she can see it and sniff at it and gradually she's getting better with it. She no longer runs when we pull it out but she's still twitchy and tail between the legs mode. We've never used a slip with her either so i honestly dont know if the slip was used abusively with her. I've also had cats who got freaked out by a crawling handle. Just like with people, we dont like seeing or looking at certain things because it makes us uncomfortable. Animals can suffer the same. she may not entirely associate the harness with leading to the fun of a car ride.
Agreed, leave it laying around. Put some treats close by and gradually move them closer. She will become less fearful but she won't forget what it's for if you try to put it on her, I am betting she's too smart for that. After a few days (weeks?) try using treats to put it on and let her walk around the house with it on.
 

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Agreed, leave it laying around. Put some treats close by and gradually move them closer. She will become less fearful but she won't forget what it's for if you try to put it on her, I am betting she's too smart for that. After a few days (weeks?) try using treats to put it on and let her walk around the house with it on.
I agree, this is what I would try!
 

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Be carefull with the leaving lol, leave it when and where you can watch it. Phenix ates one of its harness lol!
 

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Is it a type made to be a car harness/seatbelt?
If it's a regular harness, could it be uncomfortable in the car (such as the straps rubbing, or the pressure of the harness if you stop suddenly)? If so maybe getting a more padded harness or seatbelt would help?
 

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If she is very food motivated just leave it out near her food bowl. Far enough away she isn't to scared to eat, but close enough that she is aware it is there. After a week, move it slightly closer, continue until she will eat her food with it right next to her.

When it is around don't make a big deal of it. Yawn, lick your lips, ignore her fearful behavior.
 
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