I think they are cool looking dogs. I've always want to own one.
Now, I have my own house with a medium size backyard with a significant amount of shade (3 tall trees). I'm close to getting my own dog!
Anyway, I have only a little bit of experienced in taking care of a dog. My sister has two Pomeranians; yes they are a handful but are behaved dogs. I lived with my sister and her husband for about a year and I kinda know what to expect as to how to take care of a dog. Also, I've been reading this forum, checking out Leerburg and other dog training videos. I'm a little bit more confident in taking care of a dog.
I like those Poms but I want a dog that I can jog with, go to the beach with, hike with, and look cool while walkin' down my neighborhood
Here's my situation.
Job:
Stable, might be a little tight on money (recovering from buying the house) but should be ok
Schedule:
Weekends = Available
Weekdays = M-F 8hr work days (but can stop by the house during lunch break if needed)
Business Travel = sometimes (not lately but might go once/twice a year for about a couple weeks at a time)
Family:
Currently live by myself, will get married Jan., plan to have kids in 3years
Family and friends might visit the house (young and old), some have toddlers, my sister have 2 Pomeranians
- I just talked to my parents and are a little freaked out that I'm want a GSD.
My mom says she would NOT visit the house (that would be nice if I didn't like my mom to visit
but I do
) They said they are scared of big dogs
Well, I'll have to convince them otherwise (probably take them to a GSD Rescue Center so they can see more GSDs)
So....based on the info
:
1. Is a GSD right for me?
2. I'm opting for a post-teen - pre-adult GSD to avoid the difficulties of raising a puppy (although I want to take care of a puppy). Is a 1.5-2.5 yr age range a good choice?
3. The dog will be primarily be an indoor dog (except hiking, jogging, etc). Is this ok?
4. Should I obtain my dog through GSD rescue or a respectable breeder?
I apologize for the long post but I don't want to get a GSD and end up returning it... Anyway, thanks for all the info.
It sounds like your mother is primarily the person who is afraid of large dogs, not so much your dad. I don't personally see this as a very big deal. When you have a large dog, especially a German Shepherd, you will find very quickly that there are a lot of people who are scared of big dogs in general and German Shepherds in particular.
This is something you need to be prepared for, because you will get all sorts of stupid reactions when you are out in public with your dog. You may get anything from little kids literally dissolving into tears and wailing upon seeing your dog (even if you're across the street or passing them in the opposite direction), to folks crossing the street, to people telling you your dog shouldn't be out and about and should be locked in a kennel instead because "they are vicious police dogs."
You know what the absolutely best way of dealing with people who are scared of your dog is? Making sure that your dog is calm, well-trained, and well-behaved around them. When people see that your dog will drop into a down on command and just lay patiently at your feet, they quickly learn they don't have to be scared and will warm up eventually. If you can teach your dog any tricks - especially cute stuff like playing dead on command - that really helps break the ice, too. I have had a number of people tell me that they are "actually scared of big dogs" while rubbing my Abby's tummy ... so that approach seems to be working.
One thing I would definitely consider are your plants to get married. If you get a dog now, it'll be your dog. Once you bring a spouse into the picture, the dog will belong to both of you and you'll very likely be sharing responsibilities. How does your future spouse feel about having a German Shepherd in the house, and, particularly, having to vacuum up that dog hair on an ongoing basis?
I think a GSD could be a good choice for you if you are really dedicated to making sure that the dog gets a proper amount of exercise, especially if you're gone for 8 hour work days during which the dog would be home alone. You'd have to get up early to go for a walk or run, and when you get home from work and are tired, you need to go for a walk or run again.
If you're dedicated, this can be done, and your dog would likely just hang out at home and relax or sleep while you're gone. If you're not dedicated and your dog doesn't get enough exercise, then you may be seeing issues such as ... oh ... trying to dig through the side of the house to get outside, or eating the couch out of boredom.
You may want to consider your options for additional exercise, too. Are there any dog walkers in your area? How about doggy daycare where your dog might spend the day every so often while you are at work?
I think considering in adult dog is a great idea and I would definitely keep your options open regarding the age. A reputable rescue can match you with a dog that would be best suited for your lifestyle, but that dog may be older than what you're looking for. Would you be willing to give that a try to find the "right" dog, or are you set on the age?
Being an indoor dog is DEFINITELY okay. German Shepherds are very focused on their people and like to be with them. They don't usually do very well being outside dogs, anyway. They should be inside dogs as long as they get enough exercise each day.
A reputable breeder and a rescue are both good choices. Breeders sometimes have older dogs that they are finding homes for, so that would be an option if you don't want a puppy. A reputable rescue is an equally good option.
Originally Posted By: Historian
I think a GSD could be a good choice for you if you are really dedicated to making sure that the dog gets a proper amount of exercise, especially if you're gone for 8 hour work days during which the dog would be home alone. You'd have to get up early to go for a walk or run, and when you get home from work and are tired, you need to go for a walk or run again.
If you're dedicated, this can be done, and your dog would likely just hang out at home and relax or sleep while you're gone. If you're not dedicated and your dog doesn't get enough exercise, then you may be seeing issues such as ... oh ... trying to dig through the side of the house to get outside, or eating the couch out of boredom.
You may want to consider your options for additional exercise, too. Are there any dog walkers in your area? How about doggy daycare where your dog might spend the day every so often while you are at work?
I think considering in adult dog is a great idea and I would definitely keep your options open regarding the age. A reputable rescue can match you with a dog that would be best suited for your lifestyle, but that dog may be older than what you're looking for. Would you be willing to give that a try to find the "right" dog, or are you set on the age?
I agree, you have to have the time and dedication for a GS. Especially when it comes to training. You will end up with a lot of aggression issues and destroyed furniture if you don't have a well behave dog. You have to be willing to find a trainer, dedicate yourself to going once or twice a week, and also doing the exercises at home on a daily basis. Also, people who do visit you, have to know how to abide by your rules when playing with him. For example, when Shane was being taught not to bite my hand, I would use the redirect method. I give him a toy or something else in replace of my hand. However, when others would play with him, they would grab his mouth and tell him no. That is not what I wanted. I had to let them know...my dog, my rules.
That is if you get a puppy. GS puppies are the cutest little fluffy balls, (I'm sure you seen in the picture section), however, they are also a lot to handle. You will be dealing with potty training, biting, chewing on your favorite pairs of shoes, leash training, teething, etc. It is rewarding but at the same time...exhausting. I remember having to wake up 3-4 in the morning so Shane could go out an pee. And you have to give them LOTS Of exercise otherwise, they get bored and find interesting ways to entertain themselves.
GS are wonderful, loyal companions, but to make sure you have a well rounded GS, you have put the time in it. Also, a well behaved GS may help ease your mom's anxiety.
Depending on where they come from and how much someone has worked with them (be it breeder or rescue) they can be like a very large puppy though!
Because if they miss out on that puppy attention/training/care, they have to get it sometime. Most are able to do that quickly and well if they have a good temperament. There are a lot of rescues in your area. GSMom might be someone to contact as she is a breeder who works with rescue too.
Start setting aside a little for a vetting fund. Always good to have!
Since you are planning on children in the future no matter what you are looking for rock solid temperament, good bite inhibition, touch sensitivity, sound/action tolerant, etc. I would look for a dog that was raised with children, or fostered with children and a dog that actively seeks kids out. In a good way!
Because I have dogs that see kids and are ready to turn the other way, but have seen dogs who seem to enjoy that interaction.
I think GSDs are easier than Poms-if a Pom were the same size as a GSD your mom would likely be terrified of them! I was afraid of the tiny one who tried to bite my GSD on a home check for sitting on "her" couch (Bella was trying to hide behind me to get away from the Pomfromhell)!
Of course, people might train them better if they were bigger. But in general, Poms are less biddable/eager to please than a GSD. They are a tiny Northern breed and have those attributes.
Sounds like you are a good fit to me. I adopted an adult GSD from a breeder, she was my first dog ever. My mother in law said she didn't like GSDs and was scared of them. Oh well...I don't really like HER dog either.
I recently got my GSD (in January) and he is my first dog ever.
I got Jasper from a rescue and they worked with me and asked me lots of questions about my life and background so that I got a dog that fit in with me (and he has!). I would definitely recommend a rescue dog- my boy is wonderful and the rescue is still there to answer my questions and wants to know updates on him!
I don't have much advice to offer, as other members do, but I did want to say that I think part of the key to managing a dog when you work (in my limited experience) is to also establish a routine that both you and the dog can get comfortable with.
You seem to have done a lot of research and are committed and prepared to handle a dog- I'd say you just have to wait to find "your dog". Good Luck!!
Originally Posted By: HistorianI think considering in adult dog is a great idea and I would definitely keep your options open regarding the age. A reputable rescue can match you with a dog that would be best suited for your lifestyle, but that dog may be older than what you're looking for.
I definitely agree with Chris. We were first time dog owners when we adopted Sean and he was between 1 - 1 1/2 yrs. old. We had two children at the time but they were not toddlers. We took Sean to obedience classes but his temperament was ideal for a family. Looking back getting a young adult dog was the best choice for us. You know your situation best and perhaps visiting different shelters, talking with a rescue group could prove beneficial. Best of luck, please keep us posted about your plans.
Originally Posted By: HistorianIt sounds like your mother is primarily the person who is afraid of large dogs, not so much your dad. I don't personally see this as a very big deal. When you have a large dog, especially a German Shepherd, you will find very quickly that there are a lot of people who are scared of big dogs in general and German Shepherds in particular.
A few years ago when my dad was coming home to work, my neighbor's two big dogs approached him. Luckily he had an umbrella to kinda scare them off (the umbrella was damaged) and my sister was making loud noises by banging on our security door to get the dogs' attention. Anyway, that's why they are traumatized. I was at work at that time so I don't know what kind of dog it was. I'm gonna reinvestigate tonight (show them some pictures/videos).
Originally Posted By: HistorianThis is something you need to be prepared for, because you will get all sorts of stupid reactions when you are out in public with your dog. You may get anything from little kids literally dissolving into tears and wailing upon seeing your dog (even if you're across the street or passing them in the opposite direction), to folks crossing the street, to people telling you your dog shouldn't be out and about and should be locked in a kennel instead because "they are vicious police dogs."
I didn't think about this that much but I will definitely need to train the dog properly.
Originally Posted By: HistorianHow does your future spouse feel about having a German Shepherd in the house, and, particularly, having to vacuum up that dog hair on an ongoing basis?
She said whatever I pick is a good choice. But she does like GSDs. A few years back, my fiancee's cousin cousin was baby sitting two large GSDs. I didn't know they could grow that big. They looked like small ponies! Anyway, I was a little freaked out but my fiancee and her cousin was all relaxed and the GSDs were very friendly and obedient. With that said, I'll opt for a smaller versions of the ones I saw.
I don't think she mind using the lint tape but as for vacuuming, I'll probably end up doing all that; I was the designated vacuumer at my parents house. I hated it (until they got tile floors) but for some reason, I don't mind doing house chores in my house.
Originally Posted By: HistorianI think a GSD could be a good choice for you if you are really dedicated to making sure that the dog gets a proper amount of exercise, especially if you're gone for 8 hour work days during which the dog would be home alone. You'd have to get up early to go for a walk or run, and when you get home from work and are tired, you need to go for a walk or run again.
I'm thinking that owning a dog is also somewhat of a good practice prior to having a baby. With all the responsibilities of taking care of a dog, I hope I'll be somewhat ready.
Originally Posted By: HistorianYou may want to consider your options for additional exercise, too. Are there any dog walkers in your area? How about doggy daycare where your dog might spend the day every so often while you are at work?
There are somewhat close dog walkers/doggy daycare here in Corona, CA according to google.
Historian said:
Would you be willing to give that a try to find the "right" dog, or are you set on the age? [/qoute]
My primary objective is to find the "right" dog. The age is a very close primary. I'd like a dog to have somewhat of the puppy crazyness (in a fun way).
Originally Posted By: LiljahYou will be dealing with potty training, biting, chewing on your favorite pairs of shoes, leash training, teething, etc. It is rewarding but at the same time...exhausting. I remember having to wake up 3-4 in the morning so Shane could go out an pee. And you have to give them LOTS Of exercise otherwise, they get bored and find interesting ways to entertain themselves.
Originally Posted By: LiljahGS are wonderful, loyal companions, but to make sure you have a well rounded GS, you have put the time in it. Also, a well behaved GS may help ease your mom's anxiety.
I think you are heading in the right direction too! Lots of folks on here are first time dog owners and are sucessful with thier GSD as a first time dog.
We had poodles growing up but I was dogless for about 15 years. My son wanted a Rin Tin Tin dog sowe got a GSD. I can say she was really my first dog too. My mother was mortified, she was convinced the dog would attack us and kill us. She never did and lived to be a wonderful, loyal, old girl. I have 5 since then and none of them has ever attacked us. The thought that they would is a ridiculous misplaced fear of a small portion of the population.
I had my 12 month old pup and 5 year old girl out walking and we we ran into a ballet recital at the park we were at, what a great socialization opportunity! We only met one person who acted afraid. We were on the path and he grabbed his son and pushed him behind his as he approached. We were already giving them plenty of space to pass as I always yield to people. I thought that was a greta way to teach your kid how to be afraid. Everyone else we met had to see the dogs, pet the dogs and tell me about thier dogs. One lady started crying, she had just lost her old GSD and missed him terribly.
GSD's are not labs or goldens, they are bred to herd, proetct and guard their flocks whether they are human flocks or animal flocks. They are protective and intelligent. They need some basic training such as houseskills and public skills. They need to be able to look to a leader (you) to help them appropriate decisions. If you don't provide that leadership they will take it upon themsleves and that is when there is problem with the breed.
An older pup or young adult is a great idea just make sure you are not adoopting a dog with behavioral issues as a first timer. You want to make sure you get a good match for your skill level. Go get that GSD!
Anybody that is smart enough to do their homework and give it this much thought is EXACTLY the right kind of owner for a GSD.
It's the irresponsible people who go get a puppy on a whim, from some random place, with no idea what they've gotten themselves into or what it will grow up to be...those are the ones with no business having any dog at all, let alone a GSD.
Good luck on your search for a the perfect GSD for you. It's work, but you'll never regret it!
Ditto to all of the <u>excellent</u> advice that has been posted above!
Pardon me, please, but I can't resist the opportunity to put in a "plug" for GSD rescue. I heartily recommend that you adopt your GSD from a rescue organization.
Having done a bit of volunteer work with one of our local GSD rescue groups, I can attest to the fact that a reputable rescue group will be happy to work with you in finding just exactly the right dog for you.
Why? Their first concern is for each dog--and they want to place each dog only once.
Of course, any reputable breeder will be at least as selective. (I certainly don't mean a put-down of reputable breeders--just a special "plug" for GSD rescue!)
I also wish to emphasize the importance of dog obedience training classes. They're not only useful in helping you teach your dog the basic commands, but they also offer that "bonding" opportunity.
You and your dog will be learning <u>very</u> useful skills, along with strengthening the dog/human relationship.
And having your dog able to follow commands will do a great deal to allay the fears of any family and friends who might be nervous about the GSD breed.
I'm always happy to give this information to new or prospective dog owners, since, as I always tell them, "Dog obedience training classes sure made <u>my</u> life a lot easier!"
And GSDs almost always shine in training classes. They seem to thoroughly enjoy working with their humans.
As has already been mentioned, just by asking questions, you are off to an excellent start! Good luck in finding your GSD!
I adopted my first ever GSD through a rescue almost a year and a half ago and it was a great decision. We got a 1 year old male. Even at 1 he was (and still is) very puppy like. Lots of mouthing, nipping, etc. However, with good training and age, he has outgrown most of this behavior. Best advice ever? A TIRED SHEPHERD IS A GOOD SHEPHERD. You can't just throw them out in the backyard and expect him to exercise himself. Ozzy gets 6 miles a day which keeps him calm and well mannered.
A rescue will really work with you as to what dog will fit in well with your family. I assume you will let your fiancee in on the decision as well?
As for your mother, I think once she sees a well mannered GSD, she may get over her fear. I think she just needs exposure. If she's just used to pomeranians, a GSD will be a little bit of culture shock for her. Remember, a GSD is not a Labrador or Golden. They can be aloof and reserved but a LOVER with their family.
I serve as a rescue person, and ended up adopting my fourth rescue. I also have another GSD I got from my breeder. The dog I adopted is a five year old, 72 pound purebred GSD.
I adopted the rescue for several reasons, one being she is a low maintenance dog. She is house broken, trained not to go up on furniture and very friendly. All her med records are current and she has been to obedience class. She is quite playful and 100 percent trust worthy while un-caged in the house.
Originally Posted By: Lola1969A rescue will really work with you as to what dog will fit in well with your family. I assume you will let your fiancee in on the decision as well?
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