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I really haven't found a difference in boys of girls as far as temperament. Size yes, boys naturally being bigger. Health, girls having a cycle and boys spraying.
We decided on our first two by temperament, both were very laid back and just wanted to lay in your lap, not a high drive. They both ended up being the opposite sex. Then our 3rd was 5yo when we adopted him. He to was sweet and laid back. Just what we wanted.
I don't know why DH choose a girl for our 4th. But I choose a male because I wanted big! I looked at his features, his snout was a little longer than his brothers but the head was just as square. He wasn't as laid back as our previous GS but I want to work sport with him and wanted a dog with just a little drive. He was very calm in my arms as was his brother but when with his siblings you could see who sat away from the others and who was really playful.
I think it is easier to pick when you see them and talk with the breeder. Also knowing what you want a pup for. Is it going to be just a house pet or are you wanting to go out and play, IE agility or fly ball, ect.
We decided on our first two by temperament, both were very laid back and just wanted to lay in your lap, not a high drive. They both ended up being the opposite sex. Then our 3rd was 5yo when we adopted him. He to was sweet and laid back. Just what we wanted.
I don't know why DH choose a girl for our 4th. But I choose a male because I wanted big! I looked at his features, his snout was a little longer than his brothers but the head was just as square. He wasn't as laid back as our previous GS but I want to work sport with him and wanted a dog with just a little drive. He was very calm in my arms as was his brother but when with his siblings you could see who sat away from the others and who was really playful.
I think it is easier to pick when you see them and talk with the breeder. Also knowing what you want a pup for. Is it going to be just a house pet or are you wanting to go out and play, IE agility or fly ball, ect.
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Have you had dogs in the past? Past history maybe a good indicator on if you want a male or a female. When I was a kid we had male dogs, the first four dogs I had as an adult were all males. I prefer males the only reason I have females is because I wanted to breed, not that it is working out all that well at this point, I haven't bred a dog yet. I like males better than I do females in most cases, don't get me wrong, I love the females I have now, but for a Pet MY preference would be a male.
This is my first male since a kid and I am hooked.
I always thought I liked females because they were smarter. Problem with brains often comes independence. My three favorite females have all been a real challenge to train.
I think my male is smart but he WANTS to please me. How nice. My female always gives me the indication she is doing me a favor hanging around. My male is velcroed to me, makes training a breeze.
All that dedication is intoxicating. I have YEARS of feeling like the females maid. Nice to finally feel appreciated. LOL.
I always thought I liked females because they were smarter. Problem with brains often comes independence. My three favorite females have all been a real challenge to train.
I think my male is smart but he WANTS to please me. How nice. My female always gives me the indication she is doing me a favor hanging around. My male is velcroed to me, makes training a breeze.
All that dedication is intoxicating. I have YEARS of feeling like the females maid. Nice to finally feel appreciated. LOL.
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With my dogs, they've always bonded better to the opposite sex. We've had 3 females so far, and every one of them has been a Daddy's girl, even though I do all the training, and we each feed one meal a day. Keefer is my first male, and he's stuck on me like glue. He loves my hubby, and seeks affection from him often, but if I leave the room, he's hot on my heels.
Both our dogs are very affectionate and people oriented, but Dena is slightly more independent in that she's not constantly up your butt like Keef is, but she still likes to stay close. She is calmer and less energetic than he is and will flirt with strangers. He's much drivier. But all dogs are individuals, and I don't know if there's any 'typical' temperament differences between genders.
Both our dogs are very affectionate and people oriented, but Dena is slightly more independent in that she's not constantly up your butt like Keef is, but she still likes to stay close. She is calmer and less energetic than he is and will flirt with strangers. He's much drivier. But all dogs are individuals, and I don't know if there's any 'typical' temperament differences between genders.
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I've only had females, which I seem to bond better to, so I'm absolutely no help.
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Yes, that's my experience too as a woman. Lucy is MY dog and she's not shy about letting the world know it. I have a mare and a gelding and the same holds true for them- the mare is my soulmate, the gelding is a great guy but more aloof with me, but he does share a bond with my husband and the mare could not care less about him-she's a one person horse.
Practically, it does cost less to neuter a male than it does to spay a female- at least that's what my breeder told me.
My choice was between Lucy and a very nice male who was also quiet and sweet- but she sat on my foot, not once but twice and looked up at me as if to say, "you are not leaving without me" so I didn't. Not because she was female, but because there was that "something". She picked me, I guess.
Practically, it does cost less to neuter a male than it does to spay a female- at least that's what my breeder told me.
My choice was between Lucy and a very nice male who was also quiet and sweet- but she sat on my foot, not once but twice and looked up at me as if to say, "you are not leaving without me" so I didn't. Not because she was female, but because there was that "something". She picked me, I guess.
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Females tend to be smaller and therefore easier to control when they're young. Males tend to be more goofy and playful (not all) where females are more serious at a younger age.
Also, my girl for all her high drive lunacy as a young dog has settled in to be very maternal with my children. My male who died a few years ago certainly did not have the patience for small children.
Also, my girl for all her high drive lunacy as a young dog has settled in to be very maternal with my children. My male who died a few years ago certainly did not have the patience for small children.
So maybe the consensus might be that both have pros & cons and before deciding on a sex we should wait and see what happens when we see the pups in person...?
I like the idea of the pup picking its owner. All along I have hoped that is what happens with us. I'm just worried that if it comes down to one male and one female then I want to know which sex would be better for us. Sounds like there are definitely things to consider with both, huh?
I like the idea of the pup picking its owner. All along I have hoped that is what happens with us. I'm just worried that if it comes down to one male and one female then I want to know which sex would be better for us. Sounds like there are definitely things to consider with both, huh?
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A good breeder probably won't let you pick your pup from an entire litter.
They've been with the pups for weeks and should have a very good idea of which pups will fit the best in which homes.
For instance, my next pup will be a companion, but I'm going with working lines. The breeder will not want to place the pup that shows the most potetial for Schutzhund with me but instead in a home that will be looking for a dog to work.
Or a showline breeder isn't going to want to place the perfect conformation pup in a companion home, but instead in a home that is going to go to the showring.
The thing is though, that these types of breeders have spent a lot of time researching the lines they are putting together which gives us, the puppy buyer, the best chance at great health and temprement even if we never hit the ring or the field.
As for your question, I have a male and love his desire to please and his goofball self, but since he's my first dog
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I can't speak to owning a female.
They've been with the pups for weeks and should have a very good idea of which pups will fit the best in which homes.
For instance, my next pup will be a companion, but I'm going with working lines. The breeder will not want to place the pup that shows the most potetial for Schutzhund with me but instead in a home that will be looking for a dog to work.
Or a showline breeder isn't going to want to place the perfect conformation pup in a companion home, but instead in a home that is going to go to the showring.
The thing is though, that these types of breeders have spent a lot of time researching the lines they are putting together which gives us, the puppy buyer, the best chance at great health and temprement even if we never hit the ring or the field.
As for your question, I have a male and love his desire to please and his goofball self, but since he's my first dog
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I have trained a couple of males and a couple of females. My females are very very bonded to me - even the one who was a kennel dog for 3+ years. She is a bit toy possessive, but will annoy me just like my male by dropping a toy on my keyboard! I have one female who always had her own agenda - and her daughter who wants to please as much or more than most males. It is more genetics than sex that determines the biddablity I think.
Barb is right
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- few really conceientious breeders just let you look at photos and pick or come for a few hours and pick a pup. Placing pups is serious business, and breeders try their darnedest to place them appropriately for the owners goals and experience.
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Barb is right
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I like to give a breeder my "shopping list" of what I like and don't like in a dog. I tell him/her about what I enjoy doing, my activity level, expectations, etc. Then I let the breeder pick out the next Hooligan. I've found this method extremely sucessful. The breeder knows his/her puppies and does a much better job selecting one for me than I do!!!
As far as male vs female. I got my first GSD in 1973, a bitch and have had two other bitches since then. They've all been wonderful companions and I loved them dearly. Maybe it's just been "the luck of the draw" but I've found my three girls to be extremely intelligent, much moreso than any of my boys. ... BUT ...
I've had 10 males since getting my first boy in 1982 and have found them much easier to get along with, they don't seem to be as hard headed.
Currently I have five boys and one girl, they're all fantastic, each a unique individual, I love them all, but Honey rules the roost.
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I have had 6 GSDs since 1978. 4 males and 2 females. The females have been a MUCH better fit for me. I like a more serious dog and that is how both of my females have been. Not one that is happy and goofy acting all of the time, which is how the males have been. If I wanted "goofy" I would have Golden Retrievers.
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It depends on the dog and the bloodlines, but I think a middle of the pack male, not the most dominate makes a nice dog for first time GSD owners. I like males because they don't seem to have as much of a agenda as females and for the most part more forgiving with training mistakes. There was a post by a breeder on the board that does SchH and she stated that if you make a training mistake with a young female that they don't forget it and that males seem to be a bit more forgiving.
Now with all of that said, I would like to see a middle of the pack pup in either sex for a first time GSD owner. I wouldn't want to see a first time owner have a male or female that was extremely dominate as they may not have the knowledge to deal with it, I also wouldn't want the most submissive pup for them either, because submissive pups need a bit different handling.
Now with all of that said, I would like to see a middle of the pack pup in either sex for a first time GSD owner. I wouldn't want to see a first time owner have a male or female that was extremely dominate as they may not have the knowledge to deal with it, I also wouldn't want the most submissive pup for them either, because submissive pups need a bit different handling.
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