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I swear lately, I only come on here to get help and complain to you all! Greatly appreciated in advance.

So, my 1.5 year old has apparently developed allergies. She has had itchy eyes, biting her feet, stomach issues, and horrible recurring ear infections.

We’ve finally got the ear issue under control. Lots of medication! And she recently got an allergy shot. She does seem to be doing better but she’s still itchy frankly.

We’ve seen two vets for this and neither did a test on her ears to figure out what it actually was. They said allergies. Ok cool,I’ll go with that. But with the coronavirus, neither vet (got a second opinion) left me very happy.

The first vet gave her a one week solution and said no more chicken in her food. The second vet when the ear infection came back said to switch to a complete allergen free food and give her an allergy shot. But he gave us no real info on what the plan is next. Just to come back in two months for another shot.

I might sound like a wack job but I don’t want to feed my dog allergen free kibble. We get fresh food from the Just Food for Dogs stores and we’ve been very happy with it. Everybody who sees her says they’ve never seen a German Shepherd coat like hers.

so, my question is, what’s the deal with this type of allergy situation? Will we eventually introduce some types of food back in? Could it be environmental? We did move right shortly before the allergies started to a hilly area.
 

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I don't know where you live so I don't know if you have many vet options. Is there a dog allergist near you that you can go to? They may be able to figure out what your dog is allergic to. The average general practice vet normally won't have a clue. They'll throw out the most common causes like chicken, dog food, environmental, etc. and prescribe your dog something like Apoquel which only suppresses the itchiness but doesn't fix the underlying problem. (not to mention the oncologist suspected that it made my previous dog's liver cancer symptoms worse). I know you mentioned that you like the food now that you're giving your dog but be prepared that that could be the problem. And no offense but, is your dog's coat more important than it's suffering from allergies?
 

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I don't know where you live so I don't know if you have many vet options. Is there a dog allergist near you that you can go to? They may be able to figure out what your dog is allergic to. The average general practice vet normally won't have a clue. They'll throw out the most common causes like chicken, dog food, environmental, etc. and prescribe your dog something like Apoquel which only suppresses the itchiness but doesn't fix the underlying problem. (not to mention the oncologist suspected that it made my previous dog's liver cancer symptoms worse). I know you mentioned that you like the food now that you're giving your dog but be prepared that that could be the problem. And no offense but, is your dog's coat more important than it's suffering from allergies?
Hm that’s a good idea! I’ll start seeing what dog allergists are near me. It’s been hard to even see a vet because everything is so shut down. I would much rather just fix the underlying issue.

Obviously my dog being healthy is my top priority. Or I wouldn’t be spending an ungodly sum always taking her to the vet. 🤦‍♀️ The coat was just an example that she’s happier and healthier with that food. She’s not on the healthy food anymore. She’s on allergen free kibble and constipated and whimpering when she uses the bathroom. And I’m starting to detest the vet who said he specialized in allergies. Even with the shot and allergen food for a few months, she STILL has allergies. She still rubs her poor eyes on me during a walk to itch them and it’s just killing me.
 

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Plastic could be a factor;

Very interesting!!! I’m going to go take a look at all her toys. I can’t think of anything offhand but she has a lot. She has a ceramic set of bowls.
 

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Itchy eyes and feet make me think environmental. Grass, dust, etc all pop up this time of year. Dogs in drier areas seem more commonly afflicted by these types of allergies but they occur everywhere. Ear infections could be something else entirely or it could all be the same thing.
Plastics-yes! My Danes used to get little oozy, itchy, pimply things on her face/muzzle if she ate out of plastic or played with plastic toys.
 

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I highly recommend finding a board certified dermatologist. My first GSD suffered from severe allergies, she was allergic to a lot! My regular vet sent bloodwork to Heska for analysis, and back then, we drove just over 2 hours to see the dermatologist. She made an allergy serum, similar to human allergy shots, that I was able to inject my dog with at home. This certainly helped my dog live a more comfortable life. We started her allergy treatment when she was around 2, and I lost her after her 13th birthday. Hope you are able to pinpoint the cause and find relief for your dog.
 

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hmmm....yeah. Go to a derm. You can start with the blood Heska allergy testing at your regular vet. If you do a bit of research, you will find that most allergies are environmental. Dust mites, grasses, pollens, etc. I spent two years listening to keyboard warriors on the internet that chicken was the culprit before I did the blood test. My dog is now getting the allergy serum once a month. It took over a year to it to really work but he hasn't needed a cytopoint shot since last fall.
 

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hmmm....yeah. Go to a derm. You can start with the blood Heska allergy testing at your regular vet. If you do a bit of research, you will find that most allergies are environmental. Dust mites, grasses, pollens, etc. I spent two years listening to keyboard warriors on the internet that chicken was the culprit before I did the blood test. My dog is now getting the allergy serum once a month. It took over a year to it to really work but he hasn't needed a cytopoint shot since last fall.
See this is what I needed to hear. I was very unhappy with the vet and how he jumped to it being her food. It’s breaking my heart when I see her itching her ears or crying when they get so bad. That’s so amazing that your dog hasn’t needed a shot for so long!!!

Finding a specialist near us ASAP! Thank you all!!
 

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Well, the derm I saw charged me $500 to tell me to put him in Royal Canin.
Soooo yeah.
I wish I could offer help, but my experience is terrible.
At this point, Hans is getting Convenia shots every few months for his constant infected sore flare ups. The last one was on his face, and he had bald patches.
I’m fighting fires. I have given up finding a cure, I’m just managing the problem.
 

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See this is what I needed to hear. I was very unhappy with the vet and how he jumped to it being her food. It’s breaking my heart when I see her itching her ears or crying when they get so bad. That’s so amazing that your dog hasn’t needed a shot for so long!!!

Finding a specialist near us ASAP! Thank you all!!
I haven't seen a derm for him. My vet took care of everything from the blood tests for both food and environmental to the serum. The reason I think you should to a derm. and ask for testing is the gold standard for allergy testing is a scratch test. The blood test for food is not as accurate and in the end, you'll still end up doing a trial and error.

If he gave hera shot then it was probably cytopoint which should have stopped the itching. Your best clue on food vs environmental is to just pay attention to when the symptoms are the worse. Is the itching worse in the winter? Probably dust mites blows around by the forced air heat. Chewing on paws worse in the spring/summer? Environmental pollen's and grasses. When do her ears flare up? All the time? Or worse in the winter? Or in the spring?

There is no cure for allergies. Only management.
 

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Hm that’s a good idea! I’ll start seeing what dog allergists are near me. It’s been hard to even see a vet because everything is so shut down. I would much rather just fix the underlying issue.

Obviously my dog being healthy is my top priority. Or I wouldn’t be spending an ungodly sum always taking her to the vet. 🤦‍♀️ The coat was just an example that she’s happier and healthier with that food. She’s not on the healthy food anymore. She’s on allergen free kibble and constipated and whimpering when she uses the bathroom. And I’m starting to detest the vet who said he specialized in allergies. Even with the shot and allergen food for a few months, she STILL has allergies. She still rubs her poor eyes on me during a walk to itch them and it’s just killing me.
My friend's English bulldog was allergic to almost everything including himself. No exaggeration. That poor dog had a rough life. Anyway, good luck. I hope you find the right allergist that could figure this out for your dog.
 

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Unfortunately, if it’s a serious food allergy your best and maybe only option is a hydrolyzed protein dog food with limited ingredients. Either Royal Canin Rabbit and Potato or Hills hydrolyzed. Don't blame the allergist. There is very little more than can do for you except offer allergy shots if your dog also has environmental allergies. Even if you add back ingredients, the meat must be cooked and there are very few an extremely allergic dog can tolerate.

Cytopoint shots are around $100 a shot and work very well. Apoquel can work but it has side effects and can’t be taken for prolonged use. My dog did well with the shots but now he refuses to take them, as they can hurt going in and he doesn’t like weird sensations on his skin.

You can try wiping his skin with Duoxo pads, and bathing with chlorhexidine shampoo. Don’t use a conditioner, just the shampoo and follow directions carefully. It must sit on the skin for ten minutes. I also use BioHex mousse from the vet. It’s very hard to find, but it contains colloidal silver which has healing properties. Check the expiration date and use it before it expires. If it gets old, the foam tends to turn gray.
 

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Just a thought, but one of the things my dog was allergic to was food mites. I had to feed her canned, cooked, or frozen food only.
 

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I think dust mites and storage mites(found in dried foods) are far more common and make people THINK it's a particular food. Try freezing her kibble for a couple of week and see if the itching subsides.
 

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My friend's English bulldog was allergic to almost everything including himself. No exaggeration. That poor dog had a rough life. Anyway, good luck. I hope you find the right allergist that could figure this out for your dog.
Thank you :) So sorry about your friends dog.. I really hope my dog will be more comfortable soon. It’s breaking my heart watching her itch and have ear infections and horrible eye problems
 

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I think dust mites and storage mites(found in dried foods) are far more common and make people THINK it's a particular food. Try freezing her kibble for a couple of week and see if the itching subsides.
Interesting! So she was on frozen Just good for dogs before. And only that! And then we moved to a hilly forest area and allergies started for me and her.. :/ she’s on hydrolyzed kibble now. I will freeze it!
 

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Just a thought, but one of the things my dog was allergic to was food mites. I had to feed her canned, cooked, or frozen food only.
That’s what we were doing before and the vet said let’s get her off the food.. so frustrating! Now she’s on kibble with a shot and the allergies are still here!
 

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Unfortunately, if it’s a serious food allergy your best and maybe only option is a hydrolyzed protein dog food with limited ingredients. Either Royal Canin Rabbit and Potato or Hills hydrolyzed. Don't blame the allergist. There is very little more than can do for you except offer allergy shots if your dog also has environmental allergies. Even if you add back ingredients, the meat must be cooked and there are very few an extremely allergic dog can tolerate.

Cytopoint shots are around $100 a shot and work very well. Apoquel can work but it has side effects and can’t be taken for prolonged use. My dog did well with the shots but now he refuses to take them, as they can hurt going in and he doesn’t like weird sensations on his skin.

You can try wiping his skin with Duoxo pads, and bathing with chlorhexidine shampoo. Don’t use a conditioner, just the shampoo and follow directions carefully. It must sit on the skin for ten minutes. I also use BioHex mousse from the vet. It’s very hard to find, but it contains colloidal silver which has healing properties. Check the expiration date and use it before it expires. If it gets old, the foam tends to turn gray.
That’s what we’re doing right now. Hydrolyzed kibble. It’s been about 6 weeks with the shot as well as the hydrolyzed only food but the allergies are continuing. I’d say minimally better but not to a level where I would say either solution is working well. I’ll look up the pads and cleanser!
 

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that sounds like they are environmental and not food related. So freeze it and see if that helps. Was it a cytopoint shot given? Or something else like a steroid?
 
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