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By that I mean does this GSD look of show/work/ mixed/ chunky? If you're wondering why this is my dog's sire. Yes, I'm probably guilty of buying from a BYB. Although she wasn't the typical disgusting have 20 females to breed. Only one male and female... and a bunch of horses! When I saw him he was huge and like a big teddy bear. His ears were super thick and so are Riley's.

I have papers on my pup, well papers to register him but I'm not going to. I see no purpose in registering when I'm not showing him or doing anything else. And no, I do not breed dogs. My pup is scheduled to be neutered in Jan, thank goodness!
 

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Cannot see your picture. Wonder if the pup is as happy about losing its parts as you seem to be. Is there a reason why its "thank goodness!"?

With only one male and female, yeah probably a typical BYB.

If they had a number of females, they might be a breeder with a goal and a focus, one who keeps their older bitches rather than dumping them, one that raises up puppies from their own breedings because they are doing a good job of mating dogs and are proud of what they are producing, and possibly takes back a dog or two from people who could not keep them for whatever reason.

If you are a reputable breeder, you will have more than one female and male.

Sorry, but the changes that your male will completely complement your female are pretty slim, better to go to an outside stud and pay a stud fee. And if you have been breeding for any time, why are you not keeping back a pup or pups out of a litter to go forward with.

Good breeders are not just putting together one male and one female to produce one litter of pretty puppies. That is a BYB. Good breeders have a goal and a purpose for putting together dogs and bitches, and keeping the best of the off spring for the future.
 

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Because I am pro spay/neutering your animals when you don't intend on breeding! Is that a problem for you?
 

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I also don't think animals show a preference in their genitalia as we humans do, they in fact are animals, not human.
 

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It is.

But because I believe that spay and neuter cause cancer, and possibly other issues. Because they will not spay women for no reason, and that women who do need full hysterectomys have a shorter life expectancy than those who have been left an ovary.

I am not a fan of fixing what isn't broken.

I do not believe that keeping animals intact means they will be bred.

But if you want to, it is up to you to do so, I just do not understand why, thank goodness-- that almost sounds like you are afraid of a dog having its pieces parts. I do not understand that thinking, but I have run into it.
 

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I think he's gorgeous. BYB dog or not. No idea of the lines, but he looks fit to me. I love how thick and masculine his head looks, but it's not 'too' much, like I see in some dogs. Could probably use a bit thicker bone, but I think he's a good looking dog. But that's just my very, very unprofessional opinion.

And I'm on your side of the fence on breeding.
 

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But how do we know that. They spend enough time absorbed with them. The first thing they check out on another is usually that. How do we KNOW that they would not prefer to remain intact.

But we are their owners and if we feel that is the best course of action for the dog, that is what we can do as owners. As "guardians" well, I just don't know if you should be able to alter forever something that you do not own -- just a plug on yet another reason not to buy into terms like pet parent and pet guardians. Much happier being a pet owner.
 

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See the picture now. Color, black -- usually working, byb, or american show -- not usual in German show. Straighter top line, suggests working or BYB. The short tail suggests byb. It looks a little tall for working lines as well though hard to tell with a picture. Nice head and ears though.
 

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Sorry, I love animals and I love my dogs, but they are not humans and I do not view dogs or animals as humans that are to be given the same rights we have. Does that make me a bad dog owner? No, I treat my dogs better than some people treat their own kids.
 

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I like that he has a strong hind end too.very focused stare,bright clean eyes and glossy coat.nice tight feet broad opeb chest not narrow and constricted so room to breath.and i've been under the impression that leaving males intact increases their chance of prostate cancer too.and yes less chance of fututre ooooopppssses.and yes i've seen our male change 100% for the better after he was snipped.before he was cut nobody wanted him and he was on his way to the golden gate but we decided to take him.we made a great choice by taking him and having him cut.but your sire looks beautiful by any standard.
 

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I never had my first dog fixed but that was only because the vet told me not to do anything that wasn't necessary for surgery. He had a heart murmur and they didn't want to put him under anesthesia unless absolutely necessary.
 

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Is it possible to add a link to the pedigree of the sire? Since you have papers you must have a registration number? This way others can help you identify the lines that your pup comes from. Would be easier than just looking at a photo. If your not comfortable doing that, it's okay. Just a suggestion.

Adorable dog either way.

As for the neutering.... after doing my research my 20 month old male will remain intact. Too much unnecessary risk to neuter, in my opinion. I want to keep my boy as healthy as possible for as long as possible which is why I choose to keep him intact, feed raw, vaccinate minimally and keep him in ideal shape (body and mind).

I can understand why people neuter but for me most of those reason do not override the health issues that can arise in neutered males. Again, my opinion.

Cute photo though.
 

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He is a beautiful dog, especially that head. I love Black GSDs(I got one!).

I am pro spaying/neutering, I volunteer at a shelter after seeing so many dogs end up there(we just had 8 PB GSDs dumped at the shelter), don't want to breed and probably won't show.I don't want to deal with heat cycles or the chance of any cancer or anything oops litters. I will wait until the dog is fully mature though.
 

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Oh, I have the registration form for Riley to get his AKC certificate. I just haven't sent it in to register him or anything. I haven't even really looked at the paper. Hold on a minute and let me look to see if there is a number.
 

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I think that most people aren't smart enough or capable of owning (containing) an intact dog, male or female. So unless they plan on breeding, most people should get their dogs fixed, IMO.
 

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Okay, I have the "Dog Registration Application" I haven't sent it in or anything; Don't know if I'm actually going to but this says that the sire is Big Bear Kodiak II DN21490404
 

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I think that most people aren't smart enough or capable of owning (containing) an intact dog, male or female. So unless they plan on breeding, most people should get their dogs fixed, IMO.
I agree to an extent.

This is my opinion and I don't mean to hurt any feelings here, but... in my opinion, I think that if you can't contain or be a responsible pet owner of an intact (or not) animal, then you shouldn't get one. Training, proper supervision, and common sense go a long way.
 

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I agree to an extent.

This is my opinion and I don't mean to hurt any feelings here, but... in my opinion, I think that if you can't contain or be a responsible pet owner of an intact (or not) animal, then you shouldn't get one. Training, proper supervision, and common sense go a long way.
True, but a lot of intact dogs will try to get away to try and find a mate and some people don't keep on top of that. But I agree.
 
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