[KZoppa]

What kills me is the people that buy into this media. And to have 20 kids - that's ridiculous. I'm amazed she's alive. There's no way that's healthy. Look at mill bred dogs. :/

I personally know a woman who had 28 children. The Duggar's aint got nothing on her!

see my great grandmother had 9 kids. thats the most anyone in the family has had. Everyone else generally stops at a maximum of 4 but dont usually go past 3. the fact that she pops out one and then is pregnant again almost exactly the 6 weeks later is not healthy. her body hasnt even really been given much chance to recover and bounce back. and the last two they've had have had some pretty serious medical problems. That alone should be a clue to stop. the people who say "God will stop allowing us to get pregnant when its our time to stop" are insane and stupid IMO. not to mention a drain on the society because there is no way without them being a millionaire that they're not getting money from the government to help pay for all those kids. There just comes a point some people should be snipped. and the fact their oldest son has brainwashed his wife into wanting to do the same thing!!! nope. can you imagine xmas gatherings?! holy moly! now if they were sets of twins it would make a little more sense but still!!! 28 kids.... nope.... still too many.

 

[Syaoransbear]

Two provinces in Canada enforced eugenics too, but they did it based on your IQ. If your IQ was too low, no babies for you! The act was still in place until 1972.

(I am aware this is tongue in cheek, but...: )

People can make the choice to not give birth without being sterilized, so I don't think you should spay or neuter your children. I do think that people should get tested for diseases like huntingtons prior to having children, and people should look at themselves honestly and say, "Am I really a good candidate to spread my genes?" and, "Am I really that perfect of a human specimen that I should have many children?" Too many people have children just because they can, and too many people have LOTS of children when they really shouldn't be having any. There's plenty of children that need to be adopted, we don't need to be making more of them right now.

I don't think I would be a good candidate to continue the species. Physically I'm 'up to standard' and with no major health concerns and no family history of health concerns, but my temperament is awful.

 

[Zoeys mom]

Let's see I am the oldest of 8 (Catholic parents), and have given birth to two superior children....I am done. 2 of my sisters swear they will never reproduce, the other 3 want at least 1, my youngest brother has 1 son, and my oldest brother is gay- no kiddos coming from him My daughter swears she wants no kids so she can keep all her money,lol yes she's 9, and my son thinks dirls are gross- notice dirls not girls. The girls already find him cute though so I know he's a lost cause. While I wouldn't speuter them I do want a stun gun that works for the hours between 5-9pm.

 

[cassadee7]

Can we vote to spay and neuter OTHER peoples' kids??

 

[Whiteshepherds]

(you can spot the children of these people really easily, they have those ridiculous names that were never intended to be put on a resume

:spittingcoffee:

 

[Rerun]

Selzer, I would agree with that, and I wouldn't be opposed to parents being able to put IUD's , etc in their daughters. I am not sure that much if anything could be done for sons, but if all teenage girls had an IUD it could at least prevent teenage pregnancy.

Felons - no kids.

 

[Greydusk]

Selzer, I would agree with that, and I wouldn't be opposed to parents being able to put IUD's , etc in their daughters. I am not sure that much if anything could be done for sons, but if all teenage girls had an IUD it could at least prevent teenage pregnancy.

Felons - no kids.

This I agree with, if I ever have kids I fully intend on putting my daughter on some kind of birth control. Same goes for sons if they ever come out with the male version of the pill.

 

[JudynRich]

There is genetic testing on embryos now...you can IV only the healthy embryos and stop many genetic diseases...just my 2 cents! As for unplanned pregnancies...60% of ALL pregnancies in the US are unplanned...makes the US not look so very smart! Teen pregnancies are at an all time low...(I research this stuff for my job!)

 

[doggiedad]

i have 2 daughters. i would have them spayed if
i didn't like their boyfriends. :crazy:.

 

[Heagler870]

28 kids.... nope.... still too many.

Yep, I know! She was a little old mexican lady. Well, she is. My grandmother and her are bffs. lol

 

[shannonrae]

I have tried to convince my doctor to spay me.

Nobody want's to spay a 25 year old woman with no children! :/

 

[Heagler870]

I think that spay/neuter should be mandatory for all felons. .

What about felons that have a felony and shouldn't have one? This was back in the 70's but my cousins husband has a felony charge against him, and he didn't even do anything! He was at a local dollar store *There were no cameras* and 2 guys came in and it was armed robbery. Well, they left after they went in and did what they came to do left very quickly. The cops showed up and a few witnesses pinned it on my cousins husband. It was all hearsay and the town was a sh*tty town and the cops were crooked. They charged him with armed robbery even though there was no evidence. He is now a felon for life even though he did nothing! He has 2 beautiful children and lives a normal life. Legal rights may be taken away from felons, but human rights are not and never should be. What then would the US America be? Assuming you're from America. Not *YOU* persay but in general *you*

 

[Emoore]

Selzer, I would agree with that, and I wouldn't be opposed to parents being able to put IUD's , etc in their daughters. I am not sure that much if anything could be done for sons, but if all teenage girls had an IUD it could at least prevent teenage pregnancy..

110% in agreement on mandatory birth control, but not IUD's. Mine tore a hole in my uterus, migrated out, and was poking into my kidney. Had to have surgery to remove the stupid thing.

 

[PupperLove]

I have to say I would be 100% against mandatory birth control, or forcing birth control upon a daughter of mine if I had one. The truth is, it can be DANGEROUS. Putting hormones in the body that aren't normally there all the time can cause life threatening problems- I have had WAY too many close calls and bad experiences with birth control and refuse to take it now. After all, we are always wondering what the best time to spay/neuter our pets is to prevent removing their hormones too early, what about putting unnecesary hormones into our children? Couldn't that be harmful in the long run as well? Probably. I think extensive education on STD statistics would make teens choose much more wisely and be MUCH more careful.

I AGREE that felons (of violent crimes) should have to be steralized. For one, they are not fit for society, therefore not fit for parenthood. Two, who knows what kind of disorders they have that are apparently a threat to society, could they potentially pass on?

I was thinking about this one day and here's a perfect place to bring it up:

I know two young moms, both in their early 20's. Both have children fathered by physically abusive men (men are not related). The children fathered by these men from BOTH mothers are EXTREMLEY out of control. The fathers are NOT active in the children's lives AT ALL. The kids are throwing tantrums, hitting, yelling, and I can tell you that there is something more than just "nurture" that goes on with these boys in their heads that seems "off" and not normal "terrible 2's or 3's" I have seen them get into the "zone" and just FREAK OUT...I honestly don't know what I would do if I had to put up with that.... Could it be that they are single moms raising kids alone and just don't have enough help? Or lack of discipline? Maybe...But I tell you these kids are something else. My 3 year old son ran to me CRYING after watching the 1.5 year old boy torment his 4 year old sister....that really says something! It wasn't normal children's play behavior he was used to seeing- what he saw literally scared him!!

 

[Uniballer]

No. The traditional "modest proposal" is to eat them, not just prevent them from breeding.

 

[Ruthie]

It is funny how people are all for freedom of choice unless it is someone's choice to have a lot of children. So what if the Duggars have more children? They are all loved and cared for and financially supported without tax money, so why is their choice anyone else's business.

It really aggrivates me that any online articles are followed by an outcry of how she should not be "allowed" to have more children. Really? That gets my dander up. It always amazes me that people are all for freedom unless someone doesn't agree with THEM.

 

[Heagler870]

Ruthie, Good point!

 

[Jessiewessie99]

Well, I want kids and hoping to have at least 4, if I happen to have twins, hopefully 2 sets of twin.lol.

As for convicts, yes, most should be spayed and neutered. But what if you like bad boys?lol(Just kidding!)

 

[CaliBoy]

I don't buy into the population control myth. I think the worse problem in western civilization is that people have so limited their reproduction over the last 30 years that we stopped replacing ourselves many years ago. Now, we have more and more people who have no one to take care of them and who are already burdening the healthcare system.

The more pressing question is not whether to neuter the kids, but how us older folks are going to be euthanized. After 40, we have had our fun and used up enough resources. We should voluntarily check into centers where we can "check out" and allow the kids and young folks to enjoy the earth and not have to worry about maintaining us.

Most of us even in our 40's are already seeing doctors, with the beginning stage or full blown high blood pressure, cholesterol, heart issues, diabetes, arthritis, or female issues, such as menopause and pre-menopause stuff. Don't even get me started on cancers. For those of us who have not actually contributed children to society, there should simply be no expectation to be cared for. The singles should be the first ones selected for selective reduction of the general population.

I would just hope that the young folks would not build gas chambers. That would be the more efficient and practical means of disposal, because then thousands of us could be gassed for pennies on the head. Although not at all cost effective, it would be nice of the younger folks to let us go more peacefully with the lethal injection.

The immediate euthanization of everyone over 60 would completely eliminate the need for either healthcare reform or a bailout of Social Security. The exceptions, of course, would be those who actually 1) reproduced and 2) whose offspring would be willing to completely take care of their elderly. If you have kids or grandkids who will not look after you, then you too should just go peacefully into the night.

 

[kiwilrdg]

If we don't start the spey/neuter programs will we rely on local baby shelters, or would baby rescue groups be the main way to rehome the unwanted babies?

What if new registries are formed to get around the human kennel club's rules?

What will happen to the babies who can't perform in conformation, can they still be in work or agility trials? Can we still breed them as pets? My dogs would each want one and we don't have room to care for that many.

:help: I am trapped in politically incorrect satire.