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I’m flying from RDU to Venice on military orders in late July or early August and plan to use Lufthansa. However, I have a question about Lufthansa so their online website says their highest crate dimensions are 49 x 29 x 33 but it doesn’t state which number is the height and which is the width. I called and chatted using their online app and someone said it is LHW which would be great but another person said LWH lol. The people I’ve spoken with aren’t English speaking so it has been tough trying to figure out.
The Petmate Skykennel Giant that I would have to use for my male is
48" L x 32" W x 35" H
I’ve been told by a few people they’ve used the Giant for their dogs flying that airline, but I just wanted to check with maybe someone who has flown recently with theirs.
My male GSD is huge and thankfully he fit (we tried it out at Petsmart. My female could probably skim by and use an XL)

Also I was wondering if there were any heat restrictions. They said no since the cargo hold is air conditioned and pressurized to the same temp as the cabin, but I want to have confirmation from someone who has flown recently using them.

Any takers?
 

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Lufthansa code-shares (or at least used to) with United out of some US airports. You could buy a ticket from Lufthansa and end up on a United flight, with United rules...so it would be worth ruling out the possibility of code-sharing on the flight you're using.
 

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Lufthansa code-shares (or at least used to) with United out of some US airports. You could buy a ticket from Lufthansa and end up on a United flight, with United rules...so it would be worth ruling out the possibility of code-sharing on the flight you're using.
Lufthansa is our first so will it still be on their planes?
 

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So when it is operated by another airline they don’t abide by the same rules? ? This is making my head spin worse
 

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I would contact United. The Embraer 175 is a smaller plane. Only seats 76 and Probably has limited cargo area. Google the plane models on your itinerary. It will give you a better idea of the limitations to crate size. United should be able to answer your questions without the language barriers. They are United's planes and they should certainly know what size crates fit their planes.

It sounds dumb but be sure that they know you are traveling with 2 dogs. You'd be surprised with online bookings, third party involvement etc how the airline doesn't know what they need to know.

Wishing you the best.
 

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I would contact United. The Embraer 175 is a smaller plane. Only seats 76 and Probably has limited cargo area. Google the plane models on your itinerary. It will give you a better idea of the limitations to crate size. United should be able to answer your questions without the language barriers. They are United's planes and they should certainly know what size crates fit their planes.

It sounds dumb but be sure that they know you are traveling with 2 dogs. You'd be surprised with online bookings, third party involvement etc how the airline doesn't know what they need to know.

Wishing you the best.
Thanks so much the person above you pointed that out to me.
The only way for me to get on the actual Lufthansa planes I have to drive 8 hours to Atlanta.

That aside could you shed any light on the crate issue?
 

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You're not going to get a giant size kennel on an Embraer 175. If you check the cargo specs for different planes you're looking at getting on, it will tell you the maximum dimensions that can go in the hold. Straight from the Republic airlines website: The 400 series kennel is the maximum kennel size accepted as checked baggage on Republic flights. So no way for any flight operated by Republic/United Express.

When I flew back from France with my mother's Great Dane about 2 years ago, we came Lufthansa. I can't find the actual waybill but I'll keep looking, I know I have it. Digging back through my email, France to Frankfurt was an Airbus 321 and Frankfurt to the US was a 747. Needless to say, it was a HUGE crate and it did fit on the Airbus. I still have that too and I can see what brand it is and measure it up for you if it would help. Matter of fact, I'm not too far away from where you are and if you haven't bought a crate yet, I really have no use for this one if it would work for you.

I checked Charlotte and that's a no-go. Flying out of Washington National will get you there. Reagan won't. Dulles is no problem. You can go Dulles to Frankfurt on multiple aircraft including a 767 and Frankfurt to Venice on the same Airbus 321 that fit my huge crate. Hopefully that's less of a drive for you then Atlanta.
 

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I checked Charlotte and that's a no-go. Flying out of Washington National will get you there. Reagan won't. Dulles is no problem. You can go Dulles to Frankfurt on multiple aircraft including a 767 and Frankfurt to Venice on the same Airbus 321 that fit my huge crate. Hopefully that's less of a drive for you then Atlanta.

Im going to look into Dulles that’s only 4 hours from where my mom lives.
 

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One other thing I just thought of, if you have to have a layover do it in the States not Europe except in Frankfurt. I'm pretty sure you're going to have to change planes there anyway. Lufthansa has a very nice area for animals at that airport and since it's a major hub, you won't have problems with import paperwork. I know when I brought the Dane back for mom, the people I spoke with said something about not having to deal with import stuff since we weren't leaving the secure area and we're still traveling on the dogs EU passport. They specifically advised against a flight from France to England then the States or France to Canada then the States. If the dog gets refused entry, it's getting sent back. Not something you want to take a chance on.
 

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Oh and I'll measure that big crate and see what brand it is for you in the morning when I get back home. I'm pretty sure it's a # 700 though.
 

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One other thing I just thought of, if you have to have a layover do it in the States not Europe except in Frankfurt. I'm pretty sure you're going to have to change planes there anyway. Lufthansa has a very nice area for animals at that airport and since it's a major hub, you won't have problems with import paperwork. I know when I brought the Dane back for mom, the people I spoke with said something about not having to deal with import stuff since we weren't leaving the secure area and we're still traveling on the dogs EU passport. They specifically advised against a flight from France to England then the States or France to Canada then the States. If the dog gets refused entry, it's getting sent back. Not something you want to take a chance on.
They will have all their stuff filled out by the military vet so hopefully no problems. This flight is the only one we could find that they’ll definitely take the dogs.
It does stop in France though but there is a big layover.
 

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Go right to Lufthansa's website. Lufthansa.com

Flight LH419 Dulles to Frankfurt is a 747
Flight LH326 Frankfurt to Marco Polo is an Airbus A321.
They're Lufthansa flights. 13 hours, 30 minutes total.

Exact same planes I brought mom's Great Dane on. The crate he came in is a Petmate 48" long, 32" wide, 47" tall. It's tan. I'm positive it's the giant. The same one in your picture.
 

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Go right to Lufthansa's website. Lufthansa.com

Flight LH419 Dulles to Frankfurt is a 747
Flight LH326 Frankfurt to Marco Polo is an Airbus A321.
They're Lufthansa flights. 13 hours, 30 minutes total.

Exact same planes I brought mom's Great Dane on. The crate he came in is a Petmate 48" long, 32" wide, 47" tall. It's tan. I'm positive it's the giant. The same one in your picture.
It’s a bit taller than the Petmate which is actually good because he needs that space.
 

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LOL! Sorry about that. I made a typo. That's what I get for trying to measure this thing when I'm totally wiped out.

The crate is a Petmate Ultra. 48" long, 32" wide and 36" tall. Not 47". It is the same size as a #700 crate.

I'm still looking for the paperwork from the flight, everything is a still kind of a mess from the move but when I find it, I'll let you know. I do not for the life of me remember if Charlie came by cargo or as extra luggage. We were on the same airplanes and I checked him through customs myself. I didn't have to go pick him up at the cargo area so I really, really think it was extra luggage. I know the airline crate size restrictions have to do with what can go in cabin and what can't. There's also a restriction for extra luggage and what has to go as cargo. I remember there was some confusion about the crate size cause Lufthansa has some weird sizing and it had to go on a wide body plane.

Double check with Lufthansa or Air France about that size crate going extra luggage or cargo and don't just take my word for it. I know what planes we were on though cause I still have my booking confirmation email and I looked up the flight numbers. Cargo is going to be different check in and booking time frames from extra luggage.
 

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Thankfully through Air France their top dimensions are all the combined put together and the giant crate does not exceed that by far.
The top weight with the dog and crate combined is 165lbs which he is 90lbs now and the crate is supposedly 50lbs people have been saying that it doesn't weigh that much though so he would 100% good with that, however, I will call to double check the plane on both parts of the flight is big enough to accommodate that.
 
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