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I had a "DUH" moment today while laying in bed sick with the flu..

Get excited about training "heel".

I always try to teach "heel" when Stark is more relaxed or tired, thinking I can get better focus - I was wrong - dead wrong.

I need him ampted up..

I know we have a LONG way to go still but this is an improvement and I am very excited about this.

In between "heel's" I would run around the house playing chase with him. He LOVES to chase or be chased so this was a perfect opportunity to get him to focus on me - DUH! - it worked.

He was looking at me, I had good focus (even with a cat meowing in the background because he got locked in the cat room) and he even seemed a little excited about "working".

Anyways, critique please - this is the first session today and I will be working on it some more today when I feel better.

If someone can help me with what I am suppose to be doing (body language - voice cues - whatever else, please do so! I need help!

Our trainer is still off and so I am going about this on my own right now.

 

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I think it looks good, better than Dakota and I are doing. I will be watching for advice so I can steal some for myself. Hope you feel better!
 

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Thanks.

I have been trying and trying and trying to figure out how to get him to focus while heel and nothing I have been doing is working.

I was getting really fustrated and so took a step back for a few days (having the flu helped with this.. lol).

I know we have a long, long, long way to go.. but it's a start.. lol.
 

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much more interest from Stark now


I know you said he's not very food motivated but what are you feeding in that video? you want something where there's no 'chew' involved & I assume he dropped or missed a couple of treats (when he drops his head to the floor)? or he just thinks this may've happened


Hope your trainer feels better soon - too bad she doesn't have a friend that can take over a couple of classes.
 

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I agree, i seem to have a problem with him not understanding I think. He either tried to literally eat my hand, or falls behind. We have class tonight and I will definitely ask for a solution there. At least you have the head tilt, I love that. You have the same long hallway as me ( not identical, but straight and long). Also... I saw the video of you and him with the step stool, were you trying to get him all the way on it? lol That would be a sight to see

p.s. reffering to the hallway, I meant it was good for teaching heel and things of the sort (like when puppies sit, they aren't supposed to stick their butts to the side)
 

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I was using bacon for the treats today - first time I used them - not really liking them. Maybe if they were smaller? I dunno.

As for the step stool video? Which on? In my agility class we have a comptition as to who can get their dog to put all 4 feet on the step stool... hmmm... yeah.. okay.. I tried, not going to happen.. lol. Not yet anyways.

We were doing perch work and I thought - let's try it.. lol.
 

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Yeah, right after I asked you I saw the name of the video up on the URL bar thingy (technical term) and went DUH!! I'm so ditsy sometimes. lol
 

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I think Stark looks really good! My only suggestion would be to reward him while he is heeling so he understands that's what you are paying him for. Right now you mark/reward at sit. That might be a little confusing to him. He might think the heeling part is just what he has to do to get to the sitting part and the sit is the exercise.
 

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Thanks Jason!

I totally didn't realize I was doing that!

OMG!

And when I ask for "fuss" he always come to my side and wants to sit........ what the heck was I thinking?!?!?!

Handler error - big time!!!
 

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Yeah go for teeny tiny bits (unless it's something he's going to just inhale) - soft is usually 'better'.

re all 4 feet on the box/perch, it's alot easier with a dog that is super focused on whatever the lure is (squeakie, ball, food etc) - once you get that focus breakthrough with Stark, the rest will fall into place alot easier.
 

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I use to have such great focus with him, then he hit 6ish months and it all went out the window... lol...

I made soft treats and purchased a tone of different ones but can't seem to find one he "has to have".

He loves his tug and I use that a lot in obedience, but it doesn't work so well in heeling exercises or perch work.. lol.
 

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Quote:I use to have such great focus with him, then he hit 6ish months and it all went out the window
it'll come back then


Maybe try to charge a squeakie - color, texture, size or just one that a dog buddy loves may be the key, then only use it for special times.

Treats - how about food that is yours rather than specifically his, eg, popcorn, bits of chips or cheese ...
 

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Excitment is in the air!!!



Second session - getting better!!!

Focus is happening - I see such an improvement!!!

I am really getting excited about this... oh boy - too excited!!!

 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

Whoo-Hoo!

You guys are doing great, keep it up!
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

Thanks Kelly -

You and Shane put us to shame, but I haven't really worked on heel a lot.

I have NO IDEA how you get the kind of focus you do with Shane.. I am SUPER JEALOUS!
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

Shane's heeling is where it is because I started when he was 8 weeks old and because Im crazy LOL

Sydney never really had a decent heel at all, so I really wanted a dog that had a nice heads-up flashy heel and Im excited that that's what Im getting out of Shane.

this is how I did it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ypgOjwTF0
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

Oh, I've been watching ALL your videos'.. lol.

I always watch and say, "okay Stark, we will start tomorrow!" and then a midterm is coming, or reading needs to be done, or papers need to be marked.. etc., etc.,.. lol

I really want to start doing some serious training with him so I need to get MY butt in gear.
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

I hear ya, Ive been slacking BIG TIME since Thanksgiving! I just started taking him back to run-thrus at the training facility.

I can't wait for spring!!! Warm weather always puts me in a better mood to train!
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

Elisabeth

In the 1st video you were only rewarding for the sit.
In the 2nd you were rewarding for the heel better, but your timing is the problem.
In both you are moving way too slow, for a dog of that size.
You were in both video's pulling your hand away from him when he was going for the reward.
This is the main problem I see, why?
When he wants it you take it away, guess what will happen when you get outdoors.
What do you think that you are teaching the dog by doing this?
I would have my hand down lower with him trying to nibble a piece from it at all times.
His nose should be in the palm of your hand, and move a lot faster


P.S. the dog has lots of food drive!!
 

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Re: Excitment is in the air!!!

I agree with Brian. It looks good, but I would reward more often and more fluidly. Be a bit quicker and more animated yourself, and you will get more intensity from him.
 
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