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How would you handle this? Dog will play tug with me and do bite wedge shows ton of drive with me. But when you try to get her engaged with another person she does not want to tug or bite with anyone else. Looking for some help here.
 

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Did they tell you to stop for a while and see if wakes up a little bit , later? Part of it is going to have to be the skill of the helper and part of it will be your handling. Something I've seen is a lot of people spent so much time teaching the puppy to greet everyone real nice, that asking them to engage a helper is counter to all that. You can try back tying to remove any timing issues you may have so the helper can focus on her a little better. Maybe see if you can get her to chase a rag with someone she know's and is comfortable with while you hold her back. Try and tap into any prey drive she has.
 

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Tried back tying will engage a little bit with helper. I will even try back tied when with group training and she doesn't show to much interest and I'mtryingmyself to get her to tug. But if it's just me and her she is a beast.
 

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the only other thing I can think of is to have your dog watch other dogs practice.

My gal-dog has no interest in taking on full grown men, even though they ran like scared little girls even if she looked at them. She wasn't buying it.
I have read that for some, they learn by watching other dogs, Can't hurt to try.
 

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I do have her watch as we are training other dogs. Still does not help much. I'm puzzled by the whole thing.
 

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let's hope someone else has ideas then I dropped IGP with my gal-dog and switched to Man-trailing. If she doesn't enjoy the game of using helpers like a big tug toy, in the end I think we'd both resent the sport. It took a few classes for her to learn what man-trailing is all about but now she loves it. Interestingly, if my gal finds her person, she comes to me for the reward most of the time, be it food or toys.
 

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I do have her watch as we are training other dogs. Still does not help much. I'm puzzled by the whole thing.
My female was exactly like that! And we could not figure out what was going on at all! We started PSA with her late, when she was about 18-20 months. She will tug with me or my husband like crazy at home, in the yard, sometimes other places-- but would shut down with the helper sometimes. Didn't show much interest even with the back tie. My female GSD has low prey, mostly defense not sure about yours. But we started working her at home everyday for maybe 5 minutes max in our yard. My husband would bring out the wedge or rag and I would work the leash. If you don't have anyone that can help you with this, you can back tie her yourself. We would work her everyday in our yard, where she was most comfortable and make sure to praise a lot when she would engage and push forward. We've been doing this for about 4 weeks now. When we go to club now, she drags my husband to the helper-- he can barely hold her back now. She's very excited about it and solidly on the sleeve now.

For us, it seemed like working her for short periods of time where she was most comfortable really built her interest and confidence in the game. I think before she partly wasn't interested in engaging the decoy, but also didn't understand what she was supposed to do. Short consistent sessions in the comfort of her own yard really helped! We also introduced distractions in the yard to build confidence. For example, filled a kiddie pool full of bottles and walked her through that while she continued to push through on the bite wedge, messed with touching her feet while she's on the wedge, slapping her side (this really fires mine up, gets her excited), etc... It's made a HUGE difference. One more thing, when we first started doing this we would bring her bite wedge to club and my husband would start her and pass her to the decoy with her own wedge. Now that she's way more comfortable and has a lot more drive, she'll bite anything the decoy offers at club.
 
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