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Who are the dogs in a pedigree that you like to see?

As I am starting to learn more about pedigrees I see that there are some big names repeated over and over in many of the pedigrees. I would like to learn more about them and others. I started a spreadsheet (yes, I am a geek) to track them for future reference. Any info you have on any "famous" dog would be great.

What is the dog's name?
What do you know about them?
Source? (Is it learned from others? First hand knowledge? Owned a progeny?)
 

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Luckily there are quite a few I really like, so I can just about always find something I like in every pedigree ;).
I like the von Haus Antverpa dogs, specifically Orry, his son Querry and our old girl Marek is always a bonus. Oh and Querry's son Tom van't Leefdaalhof.
Like Wicko von Meran, we've owned a few over the years that were out of him or linebred on him. Also Mink vom Haus Wittfeld and Arek vom Stoffelblick, our bitch Marek was an Arek daughter and she is our mark for a great dog. I like Pike and Ork, too and am thinking of some others but Schutzhund starts in about 15 minutes so have to go. Can't wait to see what others like as well.
 

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I already mentioned one of my least favorites in the other thread. The other dog I try to avoid (though it is extremely difficult) is Canto Wienerau. He brought flash for the show ring, but also very weak nerves, Hemophilia A, looseness in the hocks and a tendency to roach over the loin.

There are others that I don't care for, but to avoid controversy I think I will keep them to myself. :)

I am found of the Lierbergs and their type though they are not always as easily "touched" as some of the more modern dogs and thus harder to work in protection. I like the hardness of the Körbelbachs and one of my favorites was Arek Stoffelblick. His mother went back on Matsch Bungalow who brought aggression, strong nerves and fight. Belschik Eicken-Bruche's (sire of my Vala) dam was linebred on Matsch (and was a Arek daughter). Belschik was a very strong, intense dog, not easy to handle, but very clear. He also brought longevity as did his sire Troll bösen Nachbarschaft.

I also have owned some great dogs going back on Greif Lahntal. Super obedience dogs. The granddaughter had fantastic nerves, not a crazy drive dog like most people want now, but her work ethics were unmatched. I also had a female that was linebred 4,4-4 on Greif and again the same great nerves, super tracking, though she was a bit crazier in drive (she was also a Mink granddaughter. Mink goes back on Greif). I think, like Fero, Greif had to be bred the right way, always paying attention to balance to maintain the good nerves.

Despite his being about as ugly as a mule, I have really enjoyed my dogs that went back on Mink (I have owned quite a few over the years). Again, strong nerves, aggression and fight along with tremendous grips. My dogs going back on Mink have also been great obedience dogs with excellent hunt drive. Of course they also were combined with other lines.

Another dog that I liked, but don't see very often because of his hip ratings is Grischa Schwarzen Milan. One, the dog was gorgeous, but something I saw in his direct kids and grandkids was heart. These dogs never quit.

Two more lines that I finally was able to cross into are the Fasanerie and Wolfendobel lines. I have liked the Fasanerie dogs that I have seen over the years. Again, strong dogs, excellent fight, aggression, nerves.

One more dog that I also liked, or at least what he produced was Fado Karthago. I had a granddaughter for a short time years ago and at this point own several dogs that go back on him or are linebred on him. I didn't really think about the similarities until I saw how Deja reacted when my rooster attacked her the other day. There is an intensity in the dogs and tremendous fight drive. They also don't take any BS (yes, the rooster still lives).
 

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Oooh, I had a black Austalorp hen that was awesome. For sheer cunning, the Hamburgs are tops, too.
The bitch I spoke of in my earlier post, Marek, was bred to Fado. I would have loved to have one of those pups.
Greif Lahntal is another I like as well.
Not great pigment in this dog, but Mutz von Pelztierfarm.
I like Gildo vom Korbelbach and Gento von Haus Larwin. There was a dog that a bunch of people around here had dogs out of or linebred on named Pirol, but I can't remember his kennel name, but really liked every dog out of him I saw (this would have been early 90's or maybe earlier? And another named Cliff v Mohnequelle.
Hopefully I didn't trash the spelling on too many of these, I'm working from my phonetic memory.
 

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I will check out the neighbor's rooster - he was very confused durinng the time change last week....


I do like the Fero and Troll, but depends on combos on both sides.

Nick H. We Have a Nick grandaughter that really clicks with the Fero/Grim lines.

Orry and Tom lines. Gabor's Frodo (WUSV and FCI teams this year, HOT) goes back to that.

Greif Lahntal

Working with a 4-4 Yoschy female that we bred. Year old. Incredible target, drive and bonded to Gabor.
 

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SG Blacky vom Neuen Lande SCHH3, IPO3, FH, SPH, (BSP CHAMP.), (WUSV CHAMP.) Kkl 1 . :wub:
 

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SG Pirol van't Enclavehof? (He was born in 1991.)

SG Pirol van't Enclavehof - German shepherd dog
That's him. Came from Antverpa lines, I can't ever remember that kennel name for some reason. I've always wanted to get a dog from a P litter just to use that name. The 3-4 that were in our club back then were such steady dogs, not frantic or unpredictable at all, just cool as a cucumber regardless of what was going on. But boy, just wham on the sleeve, super deep and calm.
 

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Lisa wrote,
"Another dog that I liked, but don't see very often because of his hip ratings is Grischa Schwarzen Milan. One, the dog was gorgeous, but something I saw in his direct kids and grandkids was heart. These dogs never quit."
I concur with you Lisa, I liked this dog quite a bit also. Very strong dog with heart of Lion. Very clearheaded. He did not have best hips and would throw this element into progeny if bred to weak hipped female(either themself or history). But when he was bred to strong hip producing females with good nerve the results were fantastic. For some of you newbies wanting to learn pedigrees, google the "B litter Cega".....one of the great breedings of all time. I would have taken an Aly Vordinsteinwald progeny (probably granddaughter) in a minute. Thanks, Lisa!!!
 

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Right now, I am very impressed with Vox von der kine. This dog is turning into a super producer or working dogs and dogs with nice structure. Being out of Manto vom Kalenbach, his sire line is impeccable genetically. Manto was probably Lord v Gleisdreick's best son in terms of production. This goes back to Manto's dam Julia in conjunction with Lord. An added bonus is Lord's very strong hip production and ability to pass strong hunt drive and tracking skills.
On the dam side Vox's goes back to Cent au Sat, who was brother to Cordon au Sat. Cordon was sire to Tom z PS and known for producing good social aggression with stable nerves.
For the hardcore working person look up the dog Greif aus der Konigshohle, very strong dog. Or how about the D litter Konigshohle, that has 4 males that are Sch 111, including 2 V rated and a World competitor. Or maybe you would like Apo vom Schopperweg, another strong working dog.
For the conformation addict, how about Aron vom Weinbergblick, or Mic von der Kine. Mac von der Kine is very nice also though a little long.
All in all I think this dog is and has made a tremendous contribution to the breed recently. He produces sport and working dogs,and structure and that is a rarity these days.
 

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Forgive me for an error above. Too many pedigrees in my head. Vox's dam side does not go to Cent au Sat...his mother Kim is a Troll daughter out of an Ork von Wolfendobel daughter. (Maybe even better!!) The D litter konigshohle is the ones with Cent au Sat on the dam side and Vox as sire. Sorry!!
 
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