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I stopped off at this very large grassy area that the community has commandeered as a dog park. It was "rush hour" with just under 10 dogs in the area - mostly large dogs. I do my usual and find a spot the farthest from everyone else and play fetch.

Let me note that Taedyn has an obsession with rocks, sticks and now balls. I am working on training her that she has to earn them and cannot grab them out of people's hands, but she will still grab them if people have their guard down. I try to warn anyone who comes near her to keep their guard up if they are holding anything. Adults anyway. Children? No way, their mere size makes them incapable of having a perceived guard and I'm sure she knows she can mow them over. I haven't tested it, but I sure as **** don't want to!

The community standard is that all the owners stand in a circle and chit chat while their dogs play with little to no supervision, and today was no different. This guy comes and five children under the age of 5 years pop out of his car. Lily, a small adult rottweiler (or doberman) mix, who is a very sweet gentle dog, goes up to the children and starts playing with them. The impression I get is that he thought Lily was a rottweiler puppy and it freaked him out.

He goes up to the social circle and starts admonishing them. Due to my distance I couldn't hear word for word, but he admonished them for socializing instead of watching their dogs, that they should be on their guard because small children are around, and was particularly offended that the "rottweiler" wasn't being more closely supervised. People tried to tell him that this is a dog park, and he should expect that dogs will run around, but he retorted that it didn't matter because it was a free space and think of the children.

I think to myself that he's an jerk. Even more of a jerk as two people from the social circle left (including Lily), and as I looked around noticed that there were even less dogs around now. I think maybe 4 were left after that little commotion.

I go to continue playing catch, and what do I notice? Three of his small children have wandered across the entire park into my area. He was so busy yelling at the people in the social circle that he wasn't supervising his children and they wandered off. Hmm... just like he was admonishing the other people for doing with their dogs!!

At first I noticed the hypocrisy of it, and then I notice one child is carrying a stick, and another is carrying a rock. I instantly realize the very real danger of Taedyn grabbing what they're holding out of their hands and biting their tiny hands in the process. **** it. I can't tempt fate and should leave.

And besides, it gave me an opportunity to throw the hypocrisy in his face


I pack up and put Taedyn back on the leash. I walk by the guy as I'm leaving and tell him, "You shouldn't have small children in a place where there are strange dogs. I now have to leave because there are small children here and it is too dangerous for your children to be wandering around near my dog holding rocks and sticks. The official dog park even has a rule that no child under the age of 12 should be there."

He asked me if he should leave, and I continued, "No, I'm already leaving, but you shouldn't bring your children here when there are strange dogs around again. It's too dangerous. A dog owner knows how to deal with dogs, however, a child does not." I should have also noted that a child does not have the size in order to demand respect from a dog.

And with that, I walked away with him gawking. I hope he realizes how wrong he was to A) expect strange dogs and their owners to walk on eggshells around his children, B) expect dog owners to watch their dogs, but his kids can wander, C) bring small children around strange dogs at all!

One can hope he'll learn those things anyway
 

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A beautiful example of why I stay as far away from dog parks as possible. If all goes well, it's due to sheer luck. Who needs the headaches?
 

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It's a pretty decent spot for dog owners in the city. The area is huge, and three dogs can easily play fetch with their owners without invading in each other's space. In fact, there are many times when I'm the only one there.

I just can't believe the balls this guy had to bring his kids (and with that many young kids, they couldn't all be his) during doggie rush hour and demand that people accommodate him. Unbelievable.
 

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I was heading to a dog park a few months ago to scope it out, they have rules up saying no kids under the age of 12 and all kids have to have an adult present. I was shocked to see a couple bring their baby to the dog park. That is very stupid of the parents to put their baby in very real danger, the park was full with over 25 large dogs, from rotweilers, labs, shepherds, dobermans and so on any one of them could mistake the baby as prey. I turned around and left in disgust and will never go back to a dog park.
 

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Back when I lived near a dog park and went there several times a week I had the Forest Preserve office phone number on speed dial. If I saw anyone breaking the rules I would tell them and then call the office. They would send rangers out right away.

I'm not going to let someone breaking the rules force ME out of someplace I PAID to have access to.
 

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oh yeah, we went to a "park" the other day which is really just a little area on the river thats by our house & these people had their 4 or so year old wandering around, she was heading towards beamer & we changed direction, but i wanted to be like seriously? the parents didn't seem to be watching her, but if they were they should've been like um hey don't go up to that dog you don't know.
 

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Its mostly the people not the dogs that create problems at the dog park. I used to take sarge until one day he turned this ladies little ankle bitter into a chew toy!!! That was sarges last trip to the dog park.
 

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Yeah, I dont bother with dog parks anymore for the same reason. No one watches their dog nor do they have any control over their dog . Then once their dog gets into a fight with another dog it's too late.
 

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[quote]...area that the community has commandeered as a dog park... [/quote]

Is this place officialy designated a "Dog Park"? if not then the local leash laws should of been obeyed. I don't have prob with dogs off lead I have a prob with dogs at large unsupervised. Do I supervise my kids at the park? kinda sorta, but my kids don't have the potential to put somebody in the ER or rip apart somebody's foo foo dog.
 

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Originally Posted By: MaxGunnar
Originally Posted By: ceardach...area that the community has commandeered as a dog park...
Is this place officialy designated a "Dog Park"? if not then the local leash laws should of been obeyed. I don't have prob with dogs off lead I have a prob with dogs at large unsupervised. Do I supervise my kids at the park? kinda sorta, but my kids don't have the potential to put somebody in the ER or rip apart somebody's foo foo dog.
Yes, it's not an officially designated dog park, and yes we're all liable for being fined due to leash laws (I think). It's fenced in private property owned by one of the local universities in the area, which is why I say that the area has been "commandeered" by the community. Given how well known and popular the place is, and how easy it would be to ticket people, I think it's not being enforced. I personally won't bitch if I get fined or reprimanded, though.

So, on one hand, he had a right to say that the area should be danger free for small children. On the other hand, why pick that area when there are plenty of play grounds for the kids (there are four bordering the area alone)? Plus, socially, he can't expect to change the tide and have the community change how it treats the place. Lastly, if there are almost 10 strange dogs around, you shouldn't bring more kids than sets of eyes to watch them. Thats just foolish parenting.

From what I'm guessing, he wanted to play with both his dog off leash and his kids and got freaked out when what he thought was a rottweiler puppy tried to play with his kids.
 

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When we're in Florida, the only secure area where I can run the dogs is in a dog park. We're careful to check out who's there and leave if there are dogs and human behavior we don't like.
One day we're there with 10-15 other dogs in the "large dog" area and a family comes with their mixed breed (nice dog) and 3 kids all under the age of 5. They just let the little kids walk freely among the dogs.....I was astounded! I told the husband several times that it is not safe.....doggy squabbles....getting run over or pushed by the large dogs, etc etc. The parents did nothing! The toddler was even playing in the sand......the dirty, stinking, pee soaked sand by the pavillion post! I was scared to death for these little kids. If something happened it would be our dogs fault, of course. And playing in the sand.....YUCK!!!
 

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the way i look at it is, if it's a dog park officially or just because, you should never let your kids do whatever. (like your experience camppappy). never in my life will i let my daughter just run around a bunch of random dogs, i don't even let her run around when our gsd is playing with mils retriever (both who adore my daughter) cause the dogs dont pay attention & arent gonna notice a little toddler sitting on the floor when they run through the room tackling each other. the guy shouldnt have gone off on the dog owners when he wasnt watching his kids either.
 

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Originally Posted By: ceardach Lastly, if there are almost 10 strange dogs around, you shouldn't bring more kids than sets of eyes to watch them. Thats just foolish parenting.
Yes it is. I'll bring my dog (leashed) to the playground but never my kids to a dog park. Never mind that my dog DOES NOT like that dust bowl dog park in FoxPoint.

For anyone who doesn't live around here, there's lots of unofficial community appropriated dog parks. My personal favorite happens to be in a park where supposedly no dogs are allowed - enforcement is non unless someone complains.
 

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Originally Posted By: SunCzarinaI'll bring my dog (leashed) to the playground but never my kids to a dog park. Never mind that my dog DOES NOT like that dust bowl dog park in FoxPoint.

For anyone who doesn't live around here, there's lots of unofficial community appropriated dog parks. My personal favorite happens to be in a park where supposedly no dogs are allowed - enforcement is non unless someone complains.
Oh cool, you're from RI, too. If you're familiar with the place by FoxPoint in Providence, then you probably know the place I'm talking about. It's the area behind the Brown University stadium next to their parking lot.

Where do you usually go to?

I go to whichever is closest to where I am, honestly. Although FoxPoint is a dust bowl, I go there every once and awhile. However, she has much more self control when going to the area by the stadium.

If you've ever seen us, my dog is the fluffy, black and cream colored GSD that is obsessed with rocks
 

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I usually goto the T peninsula behind the Temple to Music at Roger Williams Park. Used to be more dogs there before they installed a baseball diamond.

I've been to the place behind brown, Morgan didn't care for that either, LOL. She's been so focused on my kids since Luther died 3 years ago, I think she's forgotten how to be a dog!
 

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Seems to me pretty much everyone was in the wrong here! Dog's off leash in defiance of the law, fool of a man bringing his small children into an area with loads of strange dogs and a bunch of inattentive owners letting their dogs do as they please.

Oh for privately owned dog parks that charge membership, have rules and staff to enforce them!
 
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