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Yeah, I don't get it either.
 

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THAT makes more sense. Ok. Not AS confused as to WHY now. At least a POSSIBLE why.
 

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Dawn Marie is a member of an email list I belong to. She always seemed rather level headed to me, I wonder what THE REST OF THE STORY is. Regardless, I cannot imagine anyone stealing a dog to prevent it from being neutered - that would piss me off it it happened to a dog of mine. If it's a contract dispute, IMHO it would be easier to duke it out in court than it would be to be arreseted for larceny for stealing the dog in question.
 

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I have heard of this kennel and it does seem odd. Hopefully we will hear the whole story. I would think she must have felt desperate to do what she did.
 

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I don't know. If the person did have some breeding rights on the dog and was hoping on a pup out of the lines, then while it may be easier to duke it out in court, by then the dog would be neutered and the point mute. Yes, the dog's owner might be found guilty and ordered to pay a small fee, but if there was a specific purpose the breeder was looking to breed in or breed back to, the compensation would not cover it for sure.

Stealing the dog is extreme. I guess I will learn from this, and certainly not do anything that involves other people's willingness to uphold their end of the bargain, unless I can live with the consequences if they refuse. So if I absolutely need to breed back to a certain dog, I will have to keep the dog and not sell it in the first place.

I really think it is nuts, and am trying to make sense of it by wild guesses. I am not a fan of spay/neuter, but once a pup goes to a new home, I have to accept that its owners will be making the decisions that affect its future. The only way I would consider stealing a dog back is if I knew without any question that the owners were abusing the dog. And even then, what help can I be arrested. I think even then you have to go with the authorities. If I can see without any doubt that an animal is suffering serious abuse by its owners, the authorities would have to at least investigate.
 

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Here's another article from MSNBC about the case that goes into more detail. As in the first article, there is no mention about any contract dispute over breeding the dog. The owners paid $1,300 for Drago. Apparently they had a good relationship with the breeder until the owner's, Nathan & Kelly Bird, mentioned they were going to have him neutered, "She just kind of freaked out about what I intended to do."

Dawn Marie showed police documentation supposedly signed by the owners turning ownership over to her. The Bird's claim the document was forged.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23741906
 

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Very interesting to see how this comes out.
 

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Curioser and curioser. Man, they (the media) certainly aren't making her SOUND stable, are they?

I'm so disinclined to be trustful of the media in this country that even though it sounds like she's loony I'm likely to side with the breeder simply due to the lack of facts. The media tends to do that when the facts don't fit the story they want to tell.

Anyway, I'll be keeping a close eye on this one.
 

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Not to argue, but in this case, there SHOULD be winners, and it should be the owners. Its their dog. They didn't sign any ownership over to the breeder, and she needs to give the dog back.
 

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Originally Posted By: DrDoomNot to argue, but in this case, there SHOULD be winners, and it should be the owners. Its their dog. They didn't sign any ownership over to the breeder, and she needs to give the dog back.
If that's the situation, you are absolutley right. However, I haven't been privy to any of the details and I would imagine both sides are keeping a close lip since criminal charges have been filed.

In my experience situations like this can get messy, kind of like divorce. You have her side, his side, and somewhere in the middle what really happened......

Like I said, I don't know any of the details, I just hope it all works out well for the dog.
 

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Yeah. Definitely.
 

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I've always had a great deal of respect for the breeder and was shocked to see her name involved in this matter. But that's a moot point, IMHO it all hedges on who signed the document turning the dog over to the breeder. If the owners signed it then the dog belongs to the breeder. If the breeder forged the owner's signuatures, then the dog belongs to the owners. I guess it's something only hand writing experts and a court of law can untangle.

It's a sad situation for everyone.
 

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Any updates on this case?

I believe there was a court appearance, maybe last week?
 

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link: http://www.connpost.com/ci_9582084
Dognapper pleads guilty
Drago, owners being reunited
DANIEL TEPFER
Article Last Updated: 06/13/2008 11:58:12 PM EDT

BRIDGEPORT — This Father's Day will be a poignant one for Nathan Bird.

On Friday, the Norwalk man went to the Stratford animal control shelter to pick up his "child" — 2-year-old Drago, a German shepherd, after the woman who spirited the dog away for several months pleaded guilty in Superior Court.

Dawn Marie Pieger, 43, of West Broad Street, Stratford, pleaded guilty Friday before Superior Court Judge James P. Ginocchio to one count of fourth-degree larceny. She was sentenced to a one-year suspended term, followed by two years probation.

As a condition of the probation, the judge ordered Pieger to undergo psychiatric evaluation and treatment and not to have any contact with the dog or its owners.

As part of the plea bargain, Pieger also agreed to sign paperwork that would allow Nathan Bird to pick up his dog at the animal shelter. She had no comment at she left the Golden Hill Street courthouse.

On June 6, Stratford police raided Pieger's home and found Drago. Pieger had previously refused to disclose where she was keeping the dog, who was taken from its owners five months ago.

Since the dog's disappearance, the Birds received reports that it had been spotted in Germany, Canada and eastern Connecticut.

"It's been a long time coming, but the outcome we wanted all along has finally occurred," said Bird as he drove to pick up the dog. "I want to thank the prosecutor, Craig Nowak and Stratford Police Officer Kevin Lyman."

Pieger, owner of Von Wymar German shepherds, is accused of taking the dog — formally named Drago Von Wymar — while the Birds were on vacation and refusing to tell them where the dog was.

Bird and his wife bought Drago from Pieger for $1,300 in October 2006, and the breeder had offered to board the dog for free whenever they went away.

Bird also mentioned to Pieger that he intended to neuter Drago. On Jan. 15, Pieger agreed to board Drago while the Birds were vacationing in Costa Rica. But when they returned, Bird said Pieger would not return the dog or tell them where it was.

Police said when they confronted Pieger, she claimed the Birds had signed over ownership of the dog to her and produced a document purporting to have been signed by them. However, the Birds claim the signatures were not theirs.

Bird said Pieger appeared to be upset when the Birds discussed neutering the dog.

"We were seeking her counsel on whether to have the dog neutered," Bird said. "We still haven't made up our minds what is best for the dog and we will be seeking counsel on that, but you can be sure it won't be from Pieger," he added.
 
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