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Evi's pups are leaving this weekend :( so they are getting their tattoos either today or tomorrow. I know they no longer tattoo in Germany, they just use microchips but I was curious how many breeders still tattoo their pups here in the US. Have breeders stopped doing it here as well?? If you still tattoo, do you register the tattoo with a national registry of some sort? I'm sure I've heard it before, but why did they stop tattooing in Germany anyway?

I see the pros of having a tattoo, but are there any cons in your opinion?

I like my own dogs tattooed but I also michorchip. I think if someone, for whatever reason had a hold of my dog, having a tattoo would be a good way to identify and prove it is my dog right away without having to go find a scanner and all. Not to mention that some times microchips fail and become unreadable.

For schutzhund people who trial their dogs, it is so much easier to just show the Judge the tattoo than to have to search for a chip scanner and search for the chip. But that's just me. :D

I think some shelters will hesitate to put down a dog who is tattooed vs. a dog that isn't. I think they would hold the dog longer and research more for the owner. :shrug:
 

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My breeder still does tattoos. So Glock has his, but I still plan on getting a microchip. I wil just feel better if I have as many bases covered as possible with him!!
 

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My breeder still does tattoos. So Glock has his, but I still plan on getting a microchip. I wil just feel better if I have as many bases covered as possible with him!!
There's no reason to wait on that, I had Dena & Keefer microchipped on their first vet visit after I got them at 9 weeks old. Halo already had hers (done by the breeder), so I just needed to register it.
 

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My breeder tattooed which I personally like and hope to get with all of the puppies I purchase to save me some trouble. If I intend to show and work the dog I want the tattoo for purposes of showing the judge for trials instead of a scanner.. I had all of my other dogs tattooed as well. Nina my pitbull was done for a trial because I didn't want to supply a $300 scanner for a freakin BH.

All of my dogs also have microchips but since those float around the body and it took 15 minutes of me and my vet scanning Nina's whole body to find it once just for a recheck, I figured a tattoo is a more reliable thing. My girls also have tattoos on their bellies (a little line) from when they got spayed so no one tries to accidentally open them up if they are put into a rescue by chance.

If any of my dogs go missing I want it very obvious they are well loved, have good homes, and I want them back.
 

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Leyna has her microchip but I know from personal experience with Zappa that they go out. I took Leyna in and had her tattooed on her inner thigh. I added the tattoo to her AKC registration, registered it with her Home Again microchip (you can add it on when you register the chip), registered it with UScA, and registered it with the SV. I like having the double "coverage" on her.
 

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My breeder still tattoos. Other breeders I've spoken to have said she only does because she's cheap. I prefer both, but if I had to choose, I'd rather have a tattoo.
Our tattoo registry in Canada is the CKC (Canadian Kennel Club), which requires all registered dogs to be either tattooed or chipped before going home.
 

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If you still tattoo, do you register the tattoo with a national registry of some sort? I'm sure I've heard it before, but why did they stop tattooing in Germany anyway?
It is against the Animal Protection Law to inflict knowingly pain to the pet. I guess they re-wrote the law or started to enforce it, however it is one of the reasons why we no longer tattoo. Another reason is the EU and the new traveler regulations. They only accept the tattoo until 2011 and from there on it has to be a transponder (i.e. Chip) to identify the pet if you travel in and out of the European Union. It's to get better control and eliminate rabies. We've got quite a few rabies free places and they'd like to keep it that way. :)

Personally, in the US, I'd rather have both. You barely can oversee a tattoo in the ear but not everybody checks for a chip.
 

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How do you tattoo puppies? I'm curious if its similar to the procedure for rabbits. I used to breed English Spots. It was a clamp which you put the letters/numbers into which were made up of multiple needles. Then clamped the needles through the ear, and rubbed the ink in.
 

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I will continue to tatoo as long as I have access to somone to do it! Lin - same way....<shudder> - I could not do it myself LOL

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Lin, tattoos still done the same if in the ear. I had this litter done this time. I was surprised to find out, the trend is away from tattooing. Did my first litter 2 yrs ago, since I knew that was for identification purposes for entering trials. The woman that does my tattooing said she will always tattoo her puppies, they just look naked with out one. It was mentioned that Germany is doing microchips now, but I didnt know the reason until now.
 

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Not a breeder but my pup was tattoo'd and I'm glad. I don't see any "cons". I like having both, can never be TOO careful! Also it's just way easier for shows and trials, especially if the dog has a very visibly tattoo. I don't want to have to buy my own chip reader or drive a half hour the opposite direction to the humane society to borrow theirs (and leave collateral). Regardless of what the SV says, tattooing is still acceptable for ID in the US. I always get every animal microchipped, that's a given. When I send my pedigrees to WDA/USA for certification I have both the chip and tat on the form. My dogs' tat numbers are also on file with AVID (the microchip company).

As for causing pain, oh please!!! What about all the dog owners I know that insist they can't trim their own dogs' nails and have to have a groomer or vet muzzle and wrestle them to do it? Tattooing literally takes half a second. I've inflicted far more pain on my dogs treating wounds and injuries. Nikon was running around wrestling his littermates and chasing the flirt pole immediately after being tattoo'd.
 

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As for causing pain, oh please!!! What about all the dog owners I know that insist they can't trim their own dogs' nails and have to have a groomer or vet muzzle and wrestle them to do it? Tattooing literally takes half a second.
Yep, that would be my dog....and I hope Becky doesn't have a bruised cheek due to Karlo hating to have his feet messed with!
A 90# muscle filled fur monster compared to a 10# wigglebutt is much harder to wrestle with...I choose my battles wisely and let the groomer corner him for his drama filled mani-pedi. And recovery is key, so a dog that has strong nerves will recover regardless of the poking~ prodding~ painting...I just wish I could paint Karlo's nails like Dianna does with Eris!
 

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LOL Jane, that's an interesting mental picture, Karlo getting his pedi! And yet, the dog is no worse for the wear after a routine trim, but we don't call it "abuse" and ban it. I had to trim raw tissue off Nikon's foot yesterday, was NOT fun for either of us but it's either that or he gets another infection, takes another week off training...talk about abuse!
 

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The vocals are amazing, I may just take the flip tomorrow when he visits the groomer....back to tattoo'ing.
I wish I had the other ear done in "I <3 MoM"
because The Wilds are masters in the ink world!!!
 

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Sure are! I've had multiple SV judges compliment Nikon's tattoo. They are grateful when they don't have to whip out reading classes for the tattoo check.
 

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I don't think the tattooing is cruel. Its over so quickly I don't consider it worse than any medical procedure.

Rabbits scream when they feel their lives are in danger... Occasionally I had them scream when tattooing. Its a really horrible sound, but the tattooing is over so quickly and then they act as if it never happened.
 
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