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i know NOTHING about types of gsds, so i probably sound pretty dumb [forgive me ahead of time].

our dog trainer is a gsd specialist & when he looked at her said she is definitely czech. i was just wondering what the difference is between a czech gsd & a german gsd, & so on & so forth.

thanks to anyone who takes time out to explain!
 

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Just from looking, huh? I have a Czech dog myself, and boy have I been wrong in the past guessing on sight if a dog is Czech or not.
Czech dogs really don't all look cookie-cutter. Some Czech dogs are small, zippy, wiry, foxy-faced little speedsters.. others are heavy-boned lummoxes with heads like bears. In my opinion, some dogs to me 'look Czech' when they have a distinctly wolfy, foreign, exotic look to them-- slightly oblique set to the eyes, furred inner surface of ears, sable coat. But.. it's not so cut-and-dry. Here's my fellow. He's just 1o months in these pics, but his eyes are light, slightly obliquely set, and he's the bulldozer-build type but going through a growth spurt:





 

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well, i guess more than looking at her. he spent a few minutes looking at her coat, how she stands, ears, teeth, eyes, nose, her build & her temperment. & then he was like "where did you get her?" & we told him that we saw an ad in the paper for $200, for gsd puppies. & let him know we knew nothing about her parents or bloodlines, & he said she definitely had czech in her..

this is my baby..
at 12 weeks old:


& 9 months:
 

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Here is a picture of the Czech dog I had when he was 10 months old.
Personally I think the person you are refering to is full of IT.
With the working lines you cannot tell just by looking if a dog is Czech or not. You can say the LOOK Czech but that isn't the same as saying they ARE.


 

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I don't know how he could tell - or what he was basing it on....actually, black and tan is NOT "typical" of czech lines....dark sable is more common, and even darker sables seem to be more typical of czech dogs...from the photos, it is just not easy to say WHAT lines she is!!

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If you post or PM the name of the kennel you are talking about in the other post I can tell you what type of bloodlines she has.
 

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All I could find on there is: "Only stud dogs from top German blood lines are used in our breeding program." (Looks like german SHOW lines.)

"Our select brood bitches are chosen from top American and German blood lines"

Really can't tell for sure exactly WHAT is going on with their breeding program since they don't post pedigrees.
 

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I have been to Sukee in Maine. Nat, I'm in full agreement.. can't go into it on the board due to board rules. I do know people who have gotten quality dogs from them, however.
 

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I had someone try to ARGUE with me at a German Showlines event (I was just manning a SAR table) that my West German Workinglines female, a very melanistic blanket black, was an East German Dog.

FWIW, she is a petite, <50# female. Looks nothing like a typical blocky DDR dog .......... and this from someone who showed German dogs. People don't know.

The dog in my avatar is Czech and I know quite a few SAR dogs that are - other than the typical dark sable which other lines can have (though not typically show) you really can't tell.
 

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Originally Posted By: WolfstraumI don't know how he could tell - or what he was basing it on....actually, black and tan is NOT "typical" of czech lines....dark sable is more common, and even darker sables seem to be more typical of czech dogs...from the photos, it is just not easy to say WHAT lines she is!!

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Agree. She doesn't look obviously Czech to me, and it would be impossible to really tell even seeing her in person. Especially at only 9 months old. Looking at the kennel in her background (and having some first hand knowledge of their dogs throug people who have purchased them) it's highly unlikely she has much, if any, Czech breeding.

I hate to say it, but I suspect the trainer was trying to impress you with some sort of clairvoyancy, figuring you probably don't know enough about her history or bloodlines to know that he's just making a wild guess.
 

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She looks a lot like my dog who is a West German show line dog.

I don't think you can accurately generalize that a particular area produces dogs that have particular traits. Like DDR dogs are all big boned, etc. We have a full blooded DDR dog at our club who isn't even 70lbs. He's athletic, determined, and a hard dog, but he's not big boned and doesn't have a huge, blocky head. Here's his picture:

 

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LOL.. see, looking at the photos of that dog he does look DDR to me. DDR dogs aren't usually huge in size, but that dog does have the heavier DDR bone, darker coloration, and what little can be seen of his head looks somewhat DDR too. From his overall look, I actually wouldn't be surprised if I could guess who his sire or grandsire is.
 

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Structure and coloration looks a lot like Alk Osterburg Quell. Who was also used a LOT for breeding in this country (increasing my chances of guessing right!)
 

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Who's the dog? This breeder is in my area.. They do have some Alk in their lines and a lot of East German..
 

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Hey Dan L!!!!!!!!!!! I have dogs from this line....you will actually see my Kyra on Yago's owners website on the 1st page (last I checked! LOL LOL) Yago is Kyra's dams sire - Kyra is 3/4 sister to v d Polizies Mattie....and Csabre is a daughter of Kyra, so carrying the same lines..

Who is the dam? Bet he is a pretty serious boy, not a "sport" dog....but has some real civil too!


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Originally Posted By: Chris WildStructure and coloration looks a lot like Alk Osterburg Quell. Who was also used a LOT for breeding in this country (increasing my chances of guessing right!)
Should have gone for the great grandfather.;)

That Lord look sure follows a bloodline doesn't it.
 
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