Cyclosporin Eye Drops Odd Question

YES! Plastic bottle-the label slides off, the grease is everywhere. TJ it's not just us!

Now they are using the white bottle and not the clear so I can't even tell until I am almost done that I am-but with the other bottle I would watch the level go down way faster than seemed possible-I mean-2 total drops a day should last more than a month!

Some plastic is porous, right? Maybe that is it? Maybe the glass bottles are the key.

I feel like if it is coming out of the bottle somehow, I am losing a lot of money over time. And I don't like that thought.

I am very glad I asked because I know when I call them (I am not sure if they have a lot of customers using this stuff) they are going to think I am being dramatic (WHO? ME?). I am going to bring it in with me though when I pick up my refill. Actually, I think my one vet uses it...hmmmm...

Bear!

Between those appointments katieliz was the dog treated for Plasmoma. Do you have pictures?

yes jean, she was briefly treated with cyclosporine between those two appointments (which were maybe six months apart), she hated the cyclosporine drops and it was looking like she was having some kind of reaction (greenish discharge...allergy to the carrier oil, concurrent bacterial infection from some kind of immune suppression from the cyclosporine, ???), never did figure it out, but that's when i decided to take her to ophthy at MSU for a second opinion (specialty clinic where i first took her, who gave me the original dx of plasmoma, was recommended by the local vet).

ophthy at MSU said they found no evidence of plasmoma but diagnosed her with ckc, unknown etiology, only possibility they suggested was drug reaction, although there was no history of her having had any of the drugs known to cause ckc, though she had done a course of oral antibiotics for a uti in the interim (not sulfa). so they (MSU) prescribe eyewash to clean, artificial tear gel, cyclosporine again to possibly re-initiate tear production...then we get the greenish discharge again, local vet prescribes neopolybax,..okay, by this time all i have to do is open the pantry door where the meds are kept and SHE'S GONE. at this point i'm just trying to keep them clean and use the artificial tears.

while using the cyclosporine her symptoms would be a sticky, pearly white goo that would accumulate in the inner corners of her eyes, stringy and easily removed. then it would become the greenish discharge, rx with the neopolybax, now she has crusty residue at the outer corners of her eyes, hard to get off, dark in color, sometimes greenish, oh and her little eyebrow "bumps" are swollen and kinda irritated looking (pink under the hair). don't know what conclusion to come to, except i'm totally confused. and she's a good girl but her patience for the eye meds is gone.

pictures to follow soon. (thanks all for your opinions.)

What is the FML? Is it for pannus/plasmoma?

katieliz-Bella's cyclosporin is mixed with corn oil and when I wasn't being careful she'd rub and had some hair loss. Luckily she is not allergic. I know someone who has to do these drops themselves and said yes, they are very sting-y. Plus if you are having a reaction to them like your dog you would definitely want to avoid them. I actually am allergic to a certain abx eye drop-so it can be the filler or the actual medicine. Those are my only thoughts on that. I hope something can be figured out though-weird, weird, weird.

I have no idea where her eye drops are coming from-other than my vet office. So what should I be asking them I wonder. I go on Monday.

Mom-tacrolymus is more expensive here. That's weird...but that is something that can also be used for this condition-but if it lasts longer and is a cleaner drop? That would be nice.

need to correct a mistake...the dry eye condition sera-girl has been dx with by msu is kcs (keratoconjunctivitis sicca). end of the week brain freeze i guess.

got some good pictures of her eyes, will post a link tomorrow.

would anyone else have wondered if plasmoma was an incorrect diagnosis by the specialty clinic who first saw her?

cyclosporine ophthy meds are usually made by a compounding pharmacy. the specialty clinic (and msu, of course), have in-house compounding. most local vets order over the internet, although there are more and more compounding pharmacies all the time. i've not heard of the fml but i'll have to check into that. sometimes i just think when you're giving multiple meds it's so hard to figure out what's causing what. and i've never been totally comfortable with that first diagnosis of plasmoma. cause i've just never talked to anybody who's heard of it going away, and i have a hard time accepting that a subsequent diagnosis by michigan state would be wrong, and they say she does not have plasmoma. when i asked them point blank if the specialty clinic could have mis-diagnosed, all they would say is, "we can't say what her condition was when they saw her", when i asked them if plasmoma ever goes away, their answer was "no". so what other conclusion can i come to? what would you think?

picture link to follow tomorrow.

http://www.upei.ca/~cidd/Diseases/ocular%20disorders/keratoconjunctivitis%20sicca%20.htm

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1326

Huh-I don't know, katieliz, that is weird. Pretty pictures! I see a little extra 3rd eyelid-does everyone else see that?

I am looking for the pictures of when Bella was diagnosed-she was in a major flareup. EEK!

I took the bottle in to show my vet today-it was all slimey-he thinks it was that bottle, I said I don't knowwwwww...then he gave me a free bottle so I just shut up. I *can* be bought, SO easily!

Here's what Bella's plasmoma looked like-I have more pictures of it, but I think this will give you an idea-let katieliz know if you can if that's about what you were seeing in your dogs.