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So the other day I noticed some red stuff on one of Nyx's molars, when I took a closer look and rubbed it away with a finger it came back, so it was beeding. I called the Vet and took her in the following morning. Vet said it'll heal on its own, or it won't. Said to watch it and her for signs of it bothering her. But, a human dentist would have put a sealer on something like that! So I'm confused. Should I wait to see, or seek a second opinion??
 

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Possible Pulp exposure?? A crack in a tooth that will allow bacteria to enter is a significant risk for infection. When my girl blew out her lower canine our regular vet put her antibiotics until we could get into see a board certified veterinary dentist.
 

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Any pictures available? Did part of the tooth shear off or is it split? Was the tooth bleeding or was it the gums?
 

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Darn I feel like when reading many of the threads here...I've either been there and done that....or am in the midst of doing it.......my senior Cody is going in this Thursday--for a teeth cleaning.....removing a cracked mollar....they'll do x rays so he may possibly need additional teeth removed......the Vet found the cracked tooth doing a yearly exam....part of the tooth will move in the gum....visibly
A tooth itself won't bleed.....but the gum certainly will.....I've had dogs injure/cut their gums before chewing hard and/or rough things and gums do heal...if the Vet thinks it's the gum bleeding what he said makes sense to me...........now....if the Vet said the tooth is cracked and yet didn't want to remove it then I'm guessing it's a very small crack......which may or may not get worse overtime....may need removal later.....in any event the tooth won't heal or bleed....a gum however can and will do both
 

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It is a small crack, just visible in the top 1/4 of the tooth. And yes, the tooth itself was bleeding, not the gums. That's how I noticed it. It did not bleed much, and no blood was visible when the Vet looked at it. No pieces sheared off or anything like that, the tooth looks perfectly fine except for the hairline crack in the top.
 

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If you get to a vet dentist quickly, they CAN sometimes put a sealer on some kinds of breaks, and it's a fairly inexpensive procedure (relative to what vet dentist visits can otherwise be...). I don't know whether your dog's crack would qualify, but it's definitely worth finding out.

Regular vets don't know how to do it. It's a specialty procedure. I would get him in for a dental exam so that you can find out all your options. FWIW, eyes and teeth are two things that nearly always do better with specialists because they have a lot more treatment modalities available.

One other tip: if you have to put your dog under anesthesia at the vet dentist for an easy, quick repair, they'll often do a thorough teeth cleaning upon request as a fairly small "add on" procedure. You'll get a specialist cleaning that way (with careful checking of entire mouth by the vet dentist). Even if you don't do regular cleanings, this can be a good opportunity for one, if the dog has to go under anesthesia at the dentist anyway for a repair.
 

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I second the recommendation to see a vet dentist. Do it soon... they may be able to save the tooth.
 

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This is confusing because her regular vet advertises dental services! But I just got her an appt for this afternoon with another vet hospital nearby that also claims to offer full service dentistry...so hopefully they can help! They did mention the possibility of sealing the tooth, so that at least gives me a little more confidence...and the dentist has his own black GSD, and LOVES the breed, so that was nice to hear as well.
 

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This is confusing because her regular vet advertises dental services! But I just got her an appt for this afternoon with another vet hospital nearby that also claims to offer full service dentistry...so hopefully they can help! They did mention the possibility of sealing the tooth, so that at least gives me a little more confidence...and the dentist has his own black GSD, and LOVES the breed, so that was nice to hear as well.
Most vets offer general dentistry, which involves cleanings and maybe simple tooth extractions. Most cannot do the specialty procedures that an actual vet dentist does, such as canine extractions, root canals, etc.
 

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It is a small crack, just visible in the top 1/4 of the tooth. And yes, the tooth itself was bleeding, not the gums. That's how I noticed it. It did not bleed much, and no blood was visible when the Vet looked at it. No pieces sheared off or anything like that, the tooth looks perfectly fine except for the hairline crack in the top.
So the tooth itself bleeding, if it truly was, makes me think that it fractured into the pulp chamber. In a human, a pulp chamber exposure like that would require endodontic treatment (Root Canal) or extraction. If the tooth was cracked through the furcation (the place where the roots branch off) the tooth would be non-restorable. Left untreated the nerve would die and the necrotic tissue would eventually become infected and cause an abscess. I wish you had gotten a picture when you spotted the blood. Is it possible that blood from the gums was oozing up through the crack making it appear that it was coming from the tooth? I am assuming here that dogs, like humans, have nerves in their teeth and a blood supply. I sure hope that she will be okay! Poor pups can't talk to tell us when something hurts :crying:
 

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So the new vet also didn't think the tooth was cracked enough that the tooth itself was bleeding, though I saw it with my own eyes! But he did say that sealing it would ensure that she wouldn't lose the tooth! So she goes in for that on Thursday, blood work, sedation and IV, cleaning and sealing for a mere $500...But she won't lose the tooth!

Thanks for all the well wishes and advice, that first diagnosis just didn't sound right!
 

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A small appearing crack ...would have to be pretty deep to get to the pulp......that's the only way to see anything from a tooth itself...that would appear bloody
 

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Good to her she will be getting treated soon & I hope it all goes well! (which it will) Better safe thn sorry!
 

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Good decision, Tim. I always go for board certification for almost everything beyond annual exams, vacs, etc. Can't beat expertise and experience. ;) Glad you're taking her to see someone so promptly. Let us know how it goes.
 

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I picked Nyx up from the Vet at 2:30 this afternoon. She's been sleeping a lot, and hasn't shown much interest in eating or drinking yet. But she seems to be perking up a lot more as time passes. The tooth that was cracked was the largest molar on the lower jaw, so I'm really glad it wasn't damaged too much to save! The Vet said the crack did not breach the pulp chamber, but there was a little chip in the enamel which he filled before sealing. During the cleaning they noticed a lot of bleeding, so he advised we do a PT/PTT test as a precaution. Should hear back on those results tomorrow. Nyx has played with tennis balls off and on since she was young, until I learned better, and the Vet noticed the wear. For the past few months I always keep a Chuck it ball or her roughwear ball in the car so it's always handy for playing fetch...so that's no longer an issue. Just wanted to mention it for reference for anyone still letting their dog chew on tennis balls! The Vet sent me home with a week's worth of antibiotics, but I'm reluctant to give them to her as it seems like overkill for the procedure performed...Anyone have advice on that?
 

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The Vet sent me home with a week's worth of antibiotics, but I'm reluctant to give them to her as it seems like overkill for the procedure performed...Anyone have advice on that?
I don't have much advice on the medical side of this... But at the same time, I am completely convinced that my golden retriever being put on antibiotics destroyed her immune system and now she's a mess. She was never sick a day in her life, happy and healthy. Went on antibiotics for the first time in her life and had to stay on them for 3 weeks. Ever since then I have been dealing with sudden allergies to food, rashes all over her, ear infection after ear infection, temperament changes, coat changes, etc. I am now terrified to use antibiotics and will probably avoid them whenever possible in the future.

Some of the more medical experienced members will give better ideas than my speculation. :grin2:
 
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