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For the past months I've been concentrating on the main commandos: Sitz, Platz, Steh and the Re-call. Other than that we went a lot on hikes.

At seven months Platz while there are lots of distractions out there

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Holy Mountain Hike

I know that a lot of people start the heeling part from the puppyhood but I've seen a lot of dogs out there that heel perfectly at Indras age but don't really know Sitz, Platz or Steh because all they concentrated on was heeling. I figured I do what I can do best first and get the Sitz and Platz imprinted into her memory and then focus on the heeling part.

Also, since i have nobody to correct me when I actually do it wrong I wanted to watch more videos on how people do it and how they use their hands to lure the dogs and then try to do it myself. While I don't feel very confident in what I am doing, I think we are not too bad.

This is in the house. We are slower in the house because she's sliding on the floor and you can tell that she still has the puppy movement and just starts to be able to coordinate all her legs :wub:


She's really getting big and she's looooong.. but a beautiful girl :wub:
 

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Well, work blocks the video, but I'll just say that personally I am a heeling fanatic! I start as young as possible and lure train heeling for what seems like forever (just ask Samba! lol).

The way I see heeling, it is the most important. If you compete, whether in SchH, AKC Obed, AKC Rally, whatever you will always start off right if your heeling is great. Heeling is focus and attention between the two of you. It is dancing. It is fun and sets the mood for the rest of the event (imo). So, I find it the most important but with how I train it, it takes forever to be trial-ready. So of course I start as young as possible.

I totally believe in muscle memory and have taught some really cute prancing in heel by luring for so long at a certain pace/speed to get the prancing. But back on subject..

I know what you mean about a lot of dogs out there heeling well, but having no other behaviors. I have to check myself sometimes to make sure that I'm not doing that too! Why? Well heeling takes a while to train (imo). Heeling is fun to train (what's better than that attention while heeling!?) and most dogs love doing it (so much more fun than boring/controled "stays"). Besides, IMO (again lol) the rest of the stuff (sit, stand, down, stay, come) is pretty quickly and easily learned *:shrug:*

I'm looking forward to getting off work and getting to see your video in the morning! :)
 

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Actually, it's more like the heel turn to my side that I was training in the video. The real heeling I usually do outside. You know, the command "heel".

That's what I haven't done in a looong time and what isn't even close to perfect.

My old helper always said that a dog can have the greatest heel in the world, if he gets' up from the down-stay or sit than the heeling won't get you through the BH either.

He once had to judge a guy from Italy. The dog heeled like a god but he got up in the down-stay, wouldn't sit and he fell through the BH and since he told me that story I focused on the things that will get me through the BH because the heeling itself won't get me through.

He said that they don't need to heel like a dancing horse, that's all for the show and that I should more focus on the parts that are really important. Heeling is important but even more important is the down-stay at the beginning. ;)
 

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i think doing what works best for you and your dogs is what makes everything work. Shasta has been learning to walk nicely on the leash since we got her. She knows sit. She's recently learned down pretty nicely. She knows paw, other paw, high five and speak and quiet. We're working on getting her to focus on me "watch me" instead of being so easily distracted. The methods i've used to work on her training havent worked for my other dogs so i had to find what worked best all around. I think you're doing a great job, Mrs. K!
 

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True. Heeling can be showy. I like it showy. Why? Because it looks good. My dog is correct and having fun! It KILLS me to watch what I call "hang-dog heeling". It's like nails on a chalkboard. Ech.

I agree that stays (down and sit - I do mostly AKC Obed btw) are the other key componant. I never enter a trial if I am not confident on the stays for the exact reason (great run but blows the stays = not qualifying).

This brings me back to... Ok yes, Stays = very important. Heeling is also important. THE most important thing though? My dog wanting to work with me :)

So, I start training heeling first. Have lots of fun with it then work on the stoic control exercises that are realitively quick to train compared to heeling.

That is something about competitions (SchH/AKC/Whatever)... I do believe they have made the requirements such that you cant pass any of them without a total package approach of training. Sure heeling isn't going to get you by if you don't have stay. But your stays wont get you by if you don't have your heeling either ;)

Oh! So the video isn't of straight-line or Heeling exercise, but of the "Finish" (go to heel position from sitting in front?). Still looking forward to seeing it when I get home :)
 

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True. Heeling can be showy. I like it showy. Why? Because it looks good. My dog is correct and having fun! It KILLS me to watch what I call "hang-dog heeling". It's like nails on a chalkboard. Ech.

I agree that stays (down and sit - I do mostly AKC Obed btw) are the other key componant. I never enter a trial if I am not confident on the stays for the exact reason (great run but blows the stays = not qualifying).

This brings me back to... Ok yes, Stays = very important. Heeling is also important. THE most important thing though? My dog wanting to work with me :)

So, I start training heeling first. Have lots of fun with it then work on the stoic control exercises that are realitively quick to train compared to heeling.

That is something about competitions (SchH/AKC/Whatever)... I do believe they have made the requirements such that you cant pass any of them without a total package approach of training. Sure heeling isn't going to get you by if you don't have stay. But your stays wont get you by if you don't have your heeling either ;)

Oh! So the video isn't of straight-line or Heeling exercise, but of the "Finish" (go to heel position from sitting in front?). Still looking forward to seeing it when I get home :)
Very true what you said. Can't argue or debate that. Very true, if a dog wants to work, let them work.

No, it's not the straight line, I am just about to load that up. It's the finish from the front going into heel and she's just learning it.
 

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Oh you tease LOL! I so wish it was 7am so I was heading home and watching these videos before heading off to training 100 miles away at 8am! lol

I am sure that you and Indra are doing great :) Keep it up and have fun! :D
 

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Not as great as I want us to do but than again, i haven't actively trained the heel and focused on different things but i am sure that if I am actually starting to focus on it, she'll do great. i just have to be careful that she doesn't start to do the pace.
 

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thats very good!!!!
 

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Finally I got to watch! Looks great! Only caution I have is on your straight-line heeling (the video at the court) be careful with your left shoulder. You are pushing her back when you drop your left shoulder to look back at her :)

Great training! :D
 

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I know about the shoulder part and that is why I wished i had a trainer who'd kick my butt every time I do it because I alway forget about it. It's the same with my voice. I tend to use my voice way to much too.

Like the clicking sound with the tongue, it's from training horses. I don't even notice it anymore. :help:
 

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This is Yukon from today. Haven't done any heeling with him in quite a while either. Concentrated a lot on the table training instead.
The progress that he made in two days is amazing. At the very end of the video, where he is following my leg... I started doing that three days ago. He learned that in three days. :wild::wub:

 
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