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Good afternoon everybody! So I’m not sure what to do here! I didn’t know whether to put this through nutrition and food or health issues! I know Ellie is very sensitive with food, I believe it is poultry and game birds but now I’m not sure! I start hearing a noise today and it’s her chewing her paw raw! I had to put a sock on it keep her from doing it. My understand is it can be a yeast infection or an allergic reaction from her food. However, I’ve been feeding Fromm four star line Beef Fritata for a long time now. Any clue? Also what is the best way to do a food allergy check? I’ve heard obviously going straight to the vet but our vet priced it at 500 dollars. I’d rather do Food elimination to narrow everything down. I would like to do this before feeding raw again (which she did so much better in). Anything helps guys!
 

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$500 for an allergy check? I haven't done one, but that sounds unreasonably expensive. Is there any way you could call around to other vets and get quotes? A quick skin scrape should rule out yeast.


Did her chewing just start? Could it be an issue with the changing season? Would your vet be able to prescribe or tell you the dosage for Benadryl/similar anti-histamine for her weight and see if that makes a difference? I'm leaning towards it isn't the food if it just recently started, but I think I've heard sensitivities can happen at any time.


Editing to add - we have a clinic in MD that specializes in animal allergies and the skin testing is about $260. It's possible your vet is including the treatment for an allergy in the price.
 

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Good afternoon everybody! So I’m not sure what to do here! I didn’t know whether to put this through nutrition and food or health issues! I know Ellie is very sensitive with food, I believe it is poultry and game birds but now I’m not sure! I start hearing a noise today and it’s her chewing her paw raw! I had to put a sock on it keep her from doing it. My understand is it can be a yeast infection or an allergic reaction from her food. However, I’ve been feeding Fromm four star line Beef Fritata for a long time now. Any clue? Also what is the best way to do a food allergy check? I’ve heard obviously going straight to the vet but our vet priced it at 500 dollars. I’d rather do Food elimination to narrow everything down. I would like to do this before feeding raw again (which she did so much better in). Anything helps guys!
Dogs age please.

Not sure where you live but fertilizers on yards could be a problem .

Allergies do not discriminate with age either.

Don't bother paying for any allergy tests because there is no guarantee in any of them.
 

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Good afternoon everybody! So I’m not sure what to do here! I didn’t know whether to put this through nutrition and food or health issues! I know Ellie is very sensitive with food, I believe it is poultry and game birds but now I’m not sure! I start hearing a noise today and it’s her chewing her paw raw! I had to put a sock on it keep her from doing it. My understand is it can be a yeast infection or an allergic reaction from her food. However, I’ve been feeding Fromm four star line Beef Fritata for a long time now. Any clue? Also what is the best way to do a food allergy check? I’ve heard obviously going straight to the vet but our vet priced it at 500 dollars. I’d rather do Food elimination to narrow everything down. I would like to do this before feeding raw again (which she did so much better in). Anything helps guys!

Hi mburitica181!


It could be environmental. Have you changed anything in the house? Furniture, rugs, detergent, etc???



Or Fromms could have changed their formula ever so slightly or added something new or may have gotten ingredients from a different vendor????


Or.....she just could have gotten sensitive to the beef or another ingredient in there. Don't forget.....ALL of the Fromm's formulas contain SOME type of chicken.....eggs....fat....cartilage....etc., and chicken is one that a lot of dogs are sensitive to.



You should always rotate foods (within the brand you are using) instead of one kibble.



Sorry to say it... but going to a 1 protein, balanced, raw, for 6-8 weeks (commercial is easiest) would be the best for an elimination diet.....very limited ingredients.



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Do you feed kibble with grain as an ingredient ? It could be an allergy to grains. My last dog had severe allergy to grains.(severe scratching) My current dog has a mild allergy to beef (mild diarrhea).
 

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She’s 6 years old, active and healthy! Up to date on shots. She is on the grain free four star line. I’m actually leaning towards it may be something outside because we got a new company taking over our complex and they just sprayed for weeds.... maybe that is the culprit! Any recommendations on single protein foods so I can try the elimination process? I actually forgot Fromm uses some sort of chicken. Ughh ?
 

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Single protein - Raw Balanced

Bravo: Discover Balance Raw Diet | Beef Frozen Raw Dog Food Diet - Bravo Pet Food Find a store: Find a Bravo Retailer - Bravo Pet Food NOTE Feeding Guide Tab on the page.


Northwest Naturals: Beef | Northwest Naturals Find a store: https://primalpetfoods.com/pages/store-locator

Primal: https://primalpetfoods.com/pages/canine-choose-your-primal Find a store: Primal Pet Foods: Store LocatorPronto is smaller pieces: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/product/detail/c/15/id/58 NOTE: After filling in the questions, use the reference for POUNDS or CUPS (this is Raw Food) in the feeding calculator: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/education/calc

Stella & Chewys: https://www.stellaandchewys.com/products/dog-dinner/stella-super-beef/frozen-patties/NOTE Feeding Calculator on right side of page. Stella & Chewy is HPP



Single protein - Kibble


INSTINCT Pet Food: https://www.instinctpetfood.com/dog...d-ingredient-diet-grain-free-recipe-real-lamb Store locator: https://www.instinctpetfood.com/store-locator Can be purchased on line or at Petsmart/Petco


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With my previous GSD, every year at this time of the year, my dog would get allergies that would manifest itself around his paws and he would chew them raw. Every year. I never did the allergy tests. But my vet suggested that we wash his paws everyday with medicated shampoo. (In the beginning he didn't like me washing his paws. After years of doing it, he tolerated it.) And that's what we did every year. I don't know if that helped or not but when it got colder, it would be gone and his fur would grow back until the next fall. My vet's guess was that either it was the fertilizer/pesticides applied to everyone's lawn over the summer or the fall pollen or plants that caused his allergies.

The last year he was given Apoquel for it. A couple months later he was diagnosed with advanced liver cancer. The oncologist at a different vet hospital told me that Apoquel made his situation and symptoms worse. So we stopped the Apoquel. So if your vet is considering prescribing Apoquel, be careful. If I were you, I'd find a shallow pail and wash her paws everyday. Good luck.
 

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Grass and weed allergies are becoming and more and more common. Medicated wipes (like the ones recommended above) and antimicrobial shampoos are where I would start. The paws being the primary itching site is a big, big clue.



Environmental allergy testing IS expensive! If you've ever had it done on you, it's similar in dogs. It's a big, complicated thing with a vet derm, done under sedation, injecting small amounts of allergens under the skin and looking for an allergic response. Food allergy testing is different -- I'm told they don't often recommend it because it's so unreliable. They prefer elimination trials for food allergies.



A lot of vets start with an OTC antihistamine to see if it helps. If that doesn't work, they tend to move on to Apoquel or Cytopoint (prescription meds).



If you're determined to go with food, the one food we've had the best luck with in the rescue is Wellness Simple (fish and potato). We've tried several brands of limited-ingredient foods, and that one seems to just work better for more dogs. However, some of them with actual food allergies end up needed RX hydrolyzed protein diets, or else being taken off kibble entirely and put on an alternative diet.
 

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When my dog had allergy to food I was recommended by vet to Eukanuba fish and potato. The skin problems became worse so I did some research and decided to go against what the vet recommended I started an elimination diet Kangaroo only. Within a week all skin problems and behavioral problems had disappeared. From then on I introduced many protein sources with no problems for rest of life of dog.
 

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Single protein - Raw Balanced

Bravo: Discover Balance Raw Diet | Beef Frozen Raw Dog Food Diet - Bravo Pet Food Find a store: Find a Bravo Retailer - Bravo Pet Food NOTE Feeding Guide Tab on the page.


Northwest Naturals: Beef | Northwest Naturals Find a store: https://primalpetfoods.com/pages/store-locator

Primal: https://primalpetfoods.com/pages/canine-choose-your-primal Find a store: Primal Pet Foods: Store LocatorPronto is smaller pieces: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/product/detail/c/15/id/58 NOTE: After filling in the questions, use the reference for POUNDS or CUPS (this is Raw Food) in the feeding calculator: http://www.primalpetfoods.com/education/calc

Stella & Chewys: https://www.stellaandchewys.com/products/dog-dinner/stella-super-beef/frozen-patties/NOTE Feeding Calculator on right side of page. Stella & Chewy is HPP



Single protein - Kibble


INSTINCT Pet Food: https://www.instinctpetfood.com/dog...d-ingredient-diet-grain-free-recipe-real-lamb Store locator: https://www.instinctpetfood.com/store-locator Can be purchased on line or at Petsmart/Petco


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So to confirm she is allergic to chicken I would feed her the chicken for 6-8 weeks is that how to find out properly? Or just until I notice bad reactions?
 
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