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Aaaand back again folks.

I just noticed on both of kaisers upper molars (the largest ones) he has both buildup and dark spots. The build-up is at the gumline and started to come off when I scratched it. The black stuff is in the "crease" (the part that chews the food) and only some came off. I'm worries that this might be a cavity...but...in the same tooth bilaterally? The two smaller premolars in front of these teeth are both cracked but the vets left them alone (and the molars didn't look like they do now when i took kaiser in a few months ago). I wonder if the 4 teeth are related somehow.

Anyway, the problem is, we have vets who claim they know teeth but they really don't. I could drive him 3.5 hours away to the vet school, but, well...vet school prices. Ugh...but...can puppies even get cavities? Kaiser is 1.5years old.

Also...what rmbs would be best to give him? I'm concerned about weight bearing bones if his teeth really are soft bc then they will crack again. However, the purpose is for him to clean his teeth, so are they the only option? I don't think bully sticks are firm enough to get the gunk off. Hes not on raw full time so I can't give him anything other than chicken or his stomach will have a fit.

Dakota is almost 8 and has awesome teeth, never needed a cleaning, still sharp as ever. Kaiser is 1.5 and has 2 chipped teeth, 4 worn canines, and now these two huge molars with "something".

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My dog has dental hypoplasia (no enamel on his teeth). He had a cavity pulled at eight months, and another a year or so later.
No bones for him. We get by with rolled cow cheeks, trachea, and bully sticks from bestbullystocks.com.
 

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Most dogs I do dentals on have staining and slight build up that won't come off in that crevice. I don't worry about it. Dogs can get cavities but they are uncommon because dogs don't eat sugar like we do.
 

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My dog has dental hypoplasia (no enamel on his teeth). He had a cavity pulled at eight months, and another a year or so later.
No bones for him. We get by with rolled cow cheeks, trachea, and bully sticks from bestbullystocks.com.
How was this diagnosed? Does it look any different from teeth with enamel? Also, how was the cavity discovered (ie, discoloration?). Kaiser doesn't appear to have any pain with his teeth and he continues to eat/play with toys as usual. This just looks VERY unusual to me which is why I'm worried.

I'll try the chewies you mentioned :)

Most dogs I do dentals on have staining and slight build up that won't come off in that crevice. I don't worry about it. Dogs can get cavities but they are uncommon because dogs don't eat sugar like we do.
Does it ever look black? I'm out of town and don't have my macro lens or else I'd get you a great picture of what his tooth looks like. The buildup, well, I can live with that if I can find a good chewie that will remove it. Its the black stuff in the crevice that concerns me, especially at this age.

Have you ever seen the same teeth affected symmetrically in their mouth?
 

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Rudy's teeth were just gross. Too gross for a puppy. Yellow, tartar, and brown. I brought him for a dental when his adult teeth were just about in. The vet called me while he was under and said she was stopping the dental. Every time she tried to remove the ick, his teeth would flake off. So we went to a dental specialist. He was able to clean Rudy's teeth and place a sealant on them. X rays revealed the first cavity. He had the teeth with cavities pulled.
The specialist thinks he was exposed to distemper when he was four or five months old, based on dental development. God only knows what Rudy's life was like before I adopted him. Sounds like you don't have to worry about that.
 

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How was this diagnosed? Does it look any different from teeth with enamel? Also, how was the cavity discovered (ie, discoloration?). Kaiser doesn't appear to have any pain with his teeth and he continues to eat/play with toys as usual. This just looks VERY unusual to me which is why I'm worried.

I'll try the chewies you mentioned :)



Does it ever look black? I'm out of town and don't have my macro lens or else I'd get you a great picture of what his tooth looks like. The buildup, well, I can live with that if I can find a good chewie that will remove it. Its the black stuff in the crevice that concerns me, especially at this age.

Have you ever seen the same teeth affected symmetrically in their mouth?
Yes and yes, it Would make sense that the teeth on both sides are affected if your dog chews with both sides of his mouth. I can't always get the black build up out sometimes its stained.
 

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I'm not a vet but I do work at a dentists office and though dog and human teeth are vastly different shapes I think the structure set up is basically the same sooo this would be my advice. As long as the build up is coming off and a strong tooth structure is underneath it's a good sign. If you take a pointed metal object of some kind, I use a dental scaler but you might be able to get away with a fork or safety pin, and run it over the areas of concern and they don't feel sticky it shouldn't be a cavity. As for the cracked teeth I dunno in humans we woulda pulled them on the spot.

My dog also has black spots on her two upper molars iirc, she won't let me check right now haha, but I'm pretty sure it's just staining or discoloration.

If you could get pictures that would be very helpful though bc I've read that gumline cavities are the most common with dogs so I wouldn't want to lead you down the wrong path if there was actually a problem.
 
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