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Do any of you give any herbs for calming ? I was told to find dry Chamomile to give daily in kibble (not sure amount ?) for a calming effect. Some real stressed enviroments, 1 of our crew does ok, but gets more nervous than our other 2. I have never done any holistic way nor meds so, was hoping to see what others have tried. :)

Also, input for human use ? Was gonna try Chamomile for both of us........ I get nervous before trials.

Any calming herb, etc anyone can recommend & it has helped. ;)

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I've used herbal calming treats, and herbal calming liquids on certain occasions. In fact once I somewhat "overdosed" Tessa and she acted a bit stoned lol.

I had a home visit with the Italian Greyhound Rescue for fostering, IGs are really small and delicate dogs. I knew Tessa is great with them but she used to get so rowdy when meeting new people I didn't want her to blow the home visit by her excitement. I took her to the park first and ran her for about 2 hours, then gave her the full dose of herbal calming treats (it said to split it in half over 4 hours...) Then right before the woman arrived, I gave her a few more "for good measure" because I doubted they would make much of a difference. Tessa greeted the woman calmly, then spent the rest of her visit sacked out sleeping in the corner. At the end the woman remarked how laid back Tessa was. I blushed and said well she isn't usually this laid back but we were at the park for a while so she must be exhausted...

Moral of the story, those things DO work! haha. So don't go overboard before a trial ;)
 

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LOL, thanks ! The trial thingy is more to calm me. Would like to go a natural route other than meds from doc. I'm not a pill/med taker at all & don't want to get hooked on something.

The dog gets stressed some at trials, but more like in crazy class setting or in public some.

I just have no clue on what to try or how much ?????

What did you use ?

So far, was told Chamomile, Cat Nip, or Rescue Remedy. I would like to stay with 1, not sure on the mixing ? Would be great if could use like 1 wk before a trial & not have to use daily.

That's why I'm asking, never have done anything like this & would love to go holistic...... :)
 

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mixing herbs is fine if you know what you are doing, if you aren't it can cause a chemical reaction! I would go with the combination products there are out there. These are the treats I used in my above story Dog Treats: Drs. Foster & Smith Ultra-Calm® Bites for Dogs

I don't like rescue remedy because of the addition of alcohol in it. For yourself chamomile, valerian, and lavender are calming herbs. You could go to an herbal store and get a satchet of those mixed and put it in your pillow case the night before something stressful. Or a couple drops of essential oil on your pillowcase. But be careful in buying essential oils, if you do that read this first How to Buy Essential Oils
 

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I don't like rescue remedy because of the addition of alcohol in it.
RR is available for pets alcohol free, preserved in glycerin, if you wanted to try it....have used it successfully and have used valerian (smells really bad my dog didn't appreciate it!) for myself...it works too if it's for you, but careful can make you drowsy!

Original Bach Rescue Remedy now alcohol free for Pets
 

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Thanks for those that have shared their info to me so far. ;) Any others ?

With the RR, do you have to give that daily to work ? Does anyone give their dogs dried herbs daily ? If so, what ? Ever use Hilton Herbs ?

I have called around & found I can order a 1 lb bag of dry Chamomile. I was going to use this in his kibble daily. Also was told Cat Nip is a calmer ?

For me, thought about trying Chamomile capsules or extract ? Just not sure if you take a few days before a trial or you need to do daily ?

That's why I'm asking on the holistic forum, wanting to learn. :) May PM me if not wanting to share here.

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Chammomile,cat nip,vervain(verbena),hops(herb-NOT alcoholic) and valerian root are ''safe'' calming agents. I use cat nip,mint,St.john's wort,and chamomile made into a light tea and add to the water bowl.I also add a few drops of suma/ginseng tinicture(glycerin base) to combat ''stress'' into the bowl when they are showing signs of stress or going to undergo a medical treatment the next day.
 

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Thanks for those that have shared their info to me so far. ;) Any others ?

With the RR, do you have to give that daily to work ? Does anyone give their dogs dried herbs daily ? If so, what ? Ever use Hilton Herbs ?

I have called around & found I can order a 1 lb bag of dry Chamomile. I was going to use this in his kibble daily. Also was told Cat Nip is a calmer ?

For me, thought about trying Chamomile capsules or extract ? Just not sure if you take a few days before a trial or you need to do daily ?

That's why I'm asking on the holistic forum, wanting to learn. :) May PM me if not wanting to share here.

~Thanks~
Yes. Cat nip is a calming herb for dogs and humans.It is for cats too,but they get a more profound ''excitable'' phase prior to the relaxation.Humans and dogs do not get that loopy phase first.If your having anxiety I suggest skullcap tinicture.Skullcap does very well for my anxiety.If you get stress/tension headaches with your anxiety-try feverfew instead.It is used to treat tension headaches/migranes by relaxing you.I use Mountain Rose herbs for my herbal needs. Bulk organic herbs, spices & essential oils from Mountain Rose Herbs
 

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I went to the doctor not too long ago because I would get really anxious before falling asleep, and thus couldn't, and she actually told me to go to the store and get some melatonin. Your body produces it naturally, and basically the way she described it was it was the reason you feel relaxed after eating a big meal. They don't make me fall asleep, but I do find they relax me a little. You might try that. Though I would recommend whatever you try you try it out before the trial so you know how your body reacts to it before you're at a trial.
 

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You can get melatonin at any grocery pharmacy.I get the 3mcg and my dog Kacie takes two before storms.

There is an article on storm phobias and other fears in the most recent WDJ and veterinary behaviorist Dr. Nicholas Dodman(from Tufts university) was writing about melatonin benefits:
Standard human dosage of 3 milligrams to dogs weighing 40 to 60 pounds, increase that amount to 6 or even 9 mg as needed. Melatonin is a hormone that is very safe to use; he said you couldn't poison a dog with it if you tried, and it can be combined with other behavior-modifying drugs as needed.
 

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You can get melatonin at any grocery pharmacy.I get the 3mcg and my dog Kacie takes two before storms.

There is an article on storm phobias and other fears in the most recent WDJ and veterinary behaviorist Dr. Nicholas Dodman(from Tufts university) was writing about melatonin benefits:
Standard human dosage of 3 milligrams to dogs weighing 40 to 60 pounds, increase that amount to 6 or even 9 mg as needed. Melatonin is a hormone that is very safe to use; he said you couldn't poison a dog with it if you tried, and it can be combined with other behavior-modifying drugs as needed.
I didn't realize you could give it to a dog! So during thunderstorms or fireworks I could give Sasha a few and it might help...interesting. I think I'll have to try that, as I don't really like medicine, but 4th of July was so miserable for her this year I was considering doggy downers for next year...Hmmm. Thanks for the info!
 

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hi , when I was making deliveries at the local Global Pet the owner drew my attention to a new display she had by her cash registry.

she said her customers with anxious dogs swore by it .

@-Eaze All Natural Calming Gel for dogs frightened by thunderstorms, fireworks , visits to the vet or groomers anxiety, travel problems and separation anxiety.

Takes effect in 30 minutes or less and lasts for 6 to 8 hours.
One ingredient is l-theanine , found in green tea . There is no drowsiness or loss of function . Anxiety - Nutritional Protocols & Supplements for Anxiety | Aviva.ca used by students to help in study and test anxieties .

www.PetzLife.com I have no experience with the product. I do make myself familiar with good products that are available so that I can help wherever possible .

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I have used Composure with good results, it's a food-based natural calming aid, I think it uses amino acids rather than herbs. Doesn't make the dog loopy or anything, just seems to take the edge off.

Amazon.com: Vetri-Science Composure Liquid for Dogs & Cats, 8 Ounce: Pet Supplies

I have also used an herbal tincture called Ow-Ease made by Molly's Herbals. She compounded the tincture specifically for goats, as goats do not tolerate pain medication well, but it's labeled for dogs and humans also. It DOES make you sleepy and eases pain as well. I use it myself when the pain is making it hard to sleep.

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I've used (for myself) an old patent medicine called Calms Forte(available online) It works without any side effects--for me. IIRC it contains valerian root and passionflower which have been found effective in clinical trials. Melatonin makes me feel weird and is not to be used with alcohol--and I enjoy an evening cocktail.
 

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Lemon Balm is supposed to be good for calming. You can give it in a few different possible forms... I have it growing in the yard, it smells really nice but it's related to mint and I would not recommend growing it in the ground because it spreads like crazy. You can give it fresh, make a tea out of fresh or dried leaves, steep it in honey, etc...

Here is some info on the uses of Lemon Balm for dogs (It also is anti-microbial, good for wounds/hotspots, digestion, etc):
Lemon Balm
 

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Great thread that I just fell on. I do not post here much anymore so many of you do not know me. I just happened by today!

Not to thread jack but my 4 year old Havoc (my avatar) is very drivy and over the top sometimes. In obedience he barks excitedly and in agility he has been know to grab me. When he gets this way he is no longer thinking calmly. I am looking for an herb to take the edge off of him to help him calm in the ring (me too now I think!) Any of the above good for this?? I am looking at the Doggie Calm that Paula posted.
 

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Bach flower essences are bunk, and so are many of the products out there. I have never seen a single decent un-biased study proving the effectiveness of Rescue Remedy. I think it's mainly placebo effect, and effects of the alcohol in it (if enough is consumed).

Some of the other "calming" products may have some effective ingredients in them, but use too little dosage to actually be effective. Valerian root is commonly taken for insomnia and anxiety/stress (and given to dogs), but there's also no proof it helps with anxiety. Anyone giving their dog herbs has to read up on any contraindications or potential health effects like liver issues. Just because it's "natural" does not mean it's harmless!

For calming, a few things: DAP (Dog Appeasing Pheromone) is proven to be effective in some dogs. They have diffusers, collars, and a spray you could put on the dogs bedding or on a bandanna. Melatonin is something to look into, and has been used with success for anxiety. Lavender essential oil is supposed to have a calming effect. I'm not sure if aromatherapy is truly effective, but at least it's harmless and smells good. Another product I recommend is Composure by VetriScience, which contains L-Theanine.

For humans with anxiety, diazepam or alprazolam :crazy: While medication is often effective for both dogs and humans... this is the natural health section. If you want the natural route, there's Valerian root again, there's a product I take called Busy Brain that contains B-vitamins/L-theanine and is supposed to help support focus and calmness without drowsiness- Busy Brain Release?. Also exercise, yoga, meditation, music.
 

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Thanks Dynamo. I have tried Rescue Remedy on several dogs and myself and have not seen any positive result either.
 
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