Yep! Panties and pads. Who knows what the right age is? Is there really a right age? I do know that we had one girl that developed Idiopathic thrombocytopenia following her spay procedure. Genetic, but would it have show up had we waited? Regardless, we still decided on another girl. And when she ages and is losing her health we will get one last girl (we are in our 70s). It is worth working with the 1st heat or two using panties and pads. The females are sometimes little tempermental but they gain respect for the alphas much quicker IMO.