I have no reason to be here other than to try and help you. If I said anything wrong in your opinion I apologize. Again, I wish you the best of luck in all you do!
OP I applaud you for wanting to breed German Shepherds. I hope that you learn what you will need to know to be a professional quality breeder and you will share that information with the rest of us who have shared information with you.OP, you seem to have a good attitude, even when people aren't being kind to you. I applaud you for trying to learn, finding a mentor, commiting to health clearances and titles. Is it as thorough and knowledgable as some people? Who knows, I am ot a breeder. Probably not since you aren't a breeder yet, either. But I see that you are trying.... I read posts every day on Facebook of people who just breed their dog because they and their neighbors like the dog so much.
I hope that the most experienced breeders out there are kind & willing to answer your questions and offer guidance without making you feel terrible when you make rookie mistakes (which it seems to me all rookies at anything are bound to make)
Good luck to you.
I would love to hear the answer to this question! As it is THE question IMO! From that we can assist, without that we are shooting in the dark!Let's not start with the attacks and petty bickering between members. I've deleted one post so far.
So, Cubano - what has the training you have been doing so far thaught you about drives, and dogs? Because the goal of training and titling dogs is to learn about them and become better dog people along the way - the training isn't for the dogs' benefit, but ours.
Carmen's right. You can't just read and research, you have to do. You have to become known in a venue by doing with your dog. And yes, we learn more from our failures than when things go like clockwork.how to be a breeder 101
just like a credentialed course , minimum 5 years prior experience of ownership
this is not a turn-key type of enterprise. I had more than a few wanting to get
a-bunch-of-dogs as a start up . yup- NOPE
go out and participate with your dog in any venue , and don't be ashamed to fail
there is more to be learned through failure - the dog wasn't quite good enough - find
out why --
the dog bumbled along in work - find out why - how did you fix it - did that reveal
deficiencies that you will first of all recognize, then avoid . Were the failures on your
part - not working the dog correctly - how will you change that . You develop a feel
You will have a hard time selling dogs to working people if you can't gain their confidence
in what you know in what you can do.
If your venue is show - same thing get out their and have your dog judged against others of the
same group - whether that be WGSL or ASL .
The reality is that the idea of a GSD is long gone.
The reality is that there are three distinct genetic drifts which haven't shared
a common ancestor for 40 (or more) years.
What is your idea of an ideal GSD . Show us a specimen from any era .
I just added a beautiful American bred GSD in the Good Conformation folder http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/general-information/175652-good-conformation-folder-5.html#post7896825
Have a look at it .
I love serious dedicated GSD owners. Carmen if I could I would reach out and shake your hand. It hurts me to see what people are doing to the breed, it hurts me deep in my heart! The way the whole thread started was like a knife in my heart twisting and turning which led me to ask the question and make the statements I did. Which I was lhbclbhlb for doing because some were offended. TY Carmen for sharing this with the OP. TY for loving the breed... TY TY TY you also Slezer you get it and I'm so glad to see it.Carmen's right. You can't just read and research, you have to do. You have to become known in a venue by doing with your dog. And yes, we learn more from our failures than when things go like clockwork.
Melissa, some kindly admistrators and moderators came onto this post weeks ago, and cleaned up some of the typical unhelpful attitudes that are going to happen when this topic comes up.Do you people really think that laughing at and ridiculing those who come here for information is the best way to educate future breeders? You do realize that people will go ahead with their plans anyway, even if you try to make them feel 3 inches tall, right? Why not respectfully impart your knowledge and wisdom, or gently lead them to sources of knowledge instead of being snarky and rude?
OP I commend your efforts to learn from a breeder and to health test and title your dogs. I suggest diversifying your experiences and learn from as many different sources and breeders as you can.
Our breed needs educated, serious, and dedicated breeders. They are all too rare among the backyard breeders who put their GSD with their neighbors' because they want to make some cash from the litter.
We need to encourage the next generation of people who want to improve the breed.
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What type of birds were you breeding?My advise is to find a great breeder to take you under their wing.
When I started bird breeding I found it very hard to find anyone to really teach me or even talk to me about it. Everyone wanted to keep things a secrete. I was lucky enough to find someone who shared everything with me nutrition, what really to look out for. There where hours upon hours of teaching. Honestly more like years of learning. She actually became my very best friend. She died today. We where very good friends of over 10 years.
She used to be a pet store owner in a small town and she learned quite a bit from the vet that was nearby. People that are in it for the money you do not even want to speak to them. They will more likely take shortcuts trying to make a buck instead of trying to do what is best for the breed and overall health of not only your breeders but your babies as well.
I know nothing of breeding dogs. I do know the extreme about of hours I spent doing things the right way. Not the cost efficient way. I have even spent quite a bit of money on books that Avian vets use. Good books are rarely cheap and hard to get especially with birds.
Not to mention the equipment that was needed and the willingness to get up and feed a baby bird every hour on the hour when first born when a new set of bird parents didn't seem to be feeding their babies. Staying up till 2 or 3 in the morning dealing with an egg bound breeder searching all over the internet for a good video to show how to do it right because my dear friend was in another state.
It takes 3 generations to breed out nutritionally caused diseases so you have to start with the healthiest and keep them that way.
No matter how long or how much you think you have learned there are so many variables that go on when things can, will, and do go wrong. It is not an idea to take on lightly it will consume your life more than a full time job sometimes for months. Which means you can't be free to go off to see someone or take a vacation if things are needed during that time. You have to have someone besides just you that you can count on if you get sick or just need to go out once and a while. That person for me was my daughter. I would trust her with any bird I had hand-feeding and that is saying something because you can easily kill them if you send their food down the wrong pipe. One of them is for air and one to the crop. And guess what talk to enough breeders and you will find that sometimes their pipes are opposite and if you do not go slow at the beginning so you can see which way it is going down you could end up killing the baby.
YEA YEA birds not dogs. My belief was if I was going to breed them I was going to do it right. Fresh veggies, apple-cider vinegar in their water everyday just to name a few. The passion and energy you will spend if you love them and want to do right by them take what you think it will take and multiply it a few times. There is a lot to things and some you have to learn as you go. Trust your gut when you are not sure. Because no one seems to have an emergency during the day always in the middle of the night when you are all alone trying to save a life.
The more people that will open up and show you what and how's they do will help you learn what to try and what to stay away from.
Just really think about it in ten years how old and what part of life will you be in? Because it takes time getting a great reputation just to find yourself in a different phase of life where you might need to quit when you are just getting going.
Now if after thinking about this you are still considering it I would really check into learning about feeding them the raw diet. That I know nothing of.