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I have a white german shepherd from Artica Kennels in Canada. I am considering breeding my dog and have heard that Artica Kennel is no longer in business. My dog was born on Oct. 20, 2005. Her parent sire is Artica's Corona and parent dam is Artica's Tango. I would like to find out more about my dogs siblings amd would like to find a white stud dog from the Artica line. Do any of you own a white Artica German Shepherd?

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Thanks for the suggestion. I've already tried the pedigree database; however, maybe I should try posting something on their Forum also. Since this is my first experience with a forum I'm not really sure how they work. For instance, I would have placed a picture of Meika on my original message but did not know how. Do I just use the attachment tool?

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Since this is my first experience with a forum I'm not really sure how they work. For instance, I would have placed a picture of Meika on my original message but did not know how. Do I just use the attachment tool?
You need to upload your pictures to a hosting website like photobucket. Then when you go to your picture on photobucket you'll see a thing that says img code. Copy the whole img code and paste it in a message here. It should look like: [i mg]http://www.something.com[/im g]. Then when you click post the picture will show up. Over in the Pictures! Pictures! section there's a step-by-step walkthrough for posting pictures.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've already tried the pedigree database; however, maybe I should try posting something on their Forum also.
I would not. I've looked at your dog's ancestors on the database. No offense, but the people at pedigreedatabase would eat you alive. They would say rude and mean things because your dog is not bred under the SV system, nor is it a European working or show line dog. People over there are not nearly as nice as they are here. :(
 

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You need to upload your pictures to a hosting website like photobucket. Then when you go to your picture on photobucket you'll see a thing that says img code. Copy the whole img code and paste it in a message here. It should look like: [i mg]http://www.something.com[/im g]. Then when you click post the picture will show up. Over in the Pictures! Pictures! section there's a step-by-step walkthrough for posting pictures.



I would not. I've looked at your dog's ancestors on the database. No offense, but the people at pedigreedatabase would eat you alive. They would say rude and mean things because your dog is not bred under the SV system, nor is it a European working or show line dog. People over there are not nearly as nice as they are here. :(
Sounds as if you found the pedigree information.
Maybe you can post a link for the OP.
 

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As far as pedigrees go, I'm no help at all. If you don't have his pedigree, then don't breed him. That should be the very first thing you should have before considering breeding.

But how old is your dog? Does he have hip/elbow certification from OFA or PennHip? Does he have any titles? Obedience, conformation, rally, agility, flyball, etc.? Those are the first absolute bare minimums you should have/consider before wanting to breed.
 

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My dog was born on Oct. 20, 2005.
6 years of age is not the ideal time to start breeding your bitch. Why do you want to breed her? Has she been shown, titled, OFA'd? If none of those things, no reputable stud dog owner will give you the time of day. Without OFA certification and at least some kind of title or temperament test, or even any paperwork, the only studs you'll be able to find are similarly untitled, untested, backyard-bred dogs of questionable quality, and you don't want to go that route.

Artica is renowned for deliberately breeding dogs against the standard, so I wouldn't consider any of them breeding quality. Not to say there's anything wrong with your dog, I'm sure she is a lovely pet. She just doesn't need to be bred, that's all.
 

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Hi All,

I have a white german shepherd from Artica Kennels in Canada. I am considering breeding my dog and have heard that Artica Kennel is no longer in business. My dog was born on Oct. 20, 2005. Her parent sire is Artica's Corona and parent dam is Artica's Tango. I would like to find out more about my dogs siblings amd would like to find a white stud dog from the Artica line. Do any of you own a white Artica German Shepherd?

Meika's Mom
:greet: Welcome from Central Florida!!!

I didn't realize Artica had gone out of business.

You don't mention what area you live in, but there are several WGSD clubs that hold conformation shows along with the UKC and some rare breed clubs. You can enter her in some of these conformation shows sponsored by these clubs to ensure that her conformation meets the breed standard. The second thing you'll need to do is to have several health tests done (including OFA or OVC) to help ensure you'd have a good chance of having healthy puppies. The members of these clubs can also help you find a quality stud dog.
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Artica German Shepherd

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what makes your dog breed worthy???


Welll...she is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverant and would make any boy scout proud!

If this is not enough she is healthy, intellegent and beautiful.
 

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Welll...she is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverant and would make any boy scout proud!
If she's really thrifty, sign me up! My dogs are fracking expensive!
 

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Welll...she is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverant and would make any boy scout proud!

If this is not enough she is healthy, intellegent and beautiful.
Best response to one of those questions ever. :)
 

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Best response to one of those questions ever. :)
I disagree. This is why there are so many BYB's and dogs ending up in shelters ... Fluffy is such a wonderful pet, we just have to breed her!!! Breeding dogs is serious and should be done in a thorough and thoughtful manner, not just randomly selecting a bitch which has qualities like a Boy Scout and a dog who's from the same kennel and throwing them together because they might make nice babies.
 

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:greet: Welcome from Central Florida!!!

Thank you for your helpful information. First, I would like to a make acorrection; I put Meika's bithdate as 10/20/2005 when I should have written 10/20/2006. She just turned five years old not six. Regardless, it seems that most of the white shepherd competitions are in the east not in the western part of the USA. At her age (if allowed at that age) she would be competing against two year olds by the time she got a title she would be too old to breed. If I breed her it would be a one time breeding and would have to occur within the year. Hence, the desire to find out more about her genetic history from siblings, cousins etc.... I have visited the white german shepherd database and have also looked at the german shepherd database, but have found little information. I'm sure you willl agree that the more information I can find out about all of her relatives the better. As observed on the database many of the welll known kennels have had some genetic problems somewhere in the history.
 

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I disagree. This is why there are so many BYB's and dogs ending up in shelters .

I agree which is why I have posted a request to find out more about her genetics. Perhaps you missed my first message whcih said I am considering breeding her. Is every dog which has not been shown unworthy of breeding. I don't think so. I have no intention of getting in a battle about so and so standards as there are differences between countries and dogs. Those who suggested she be hip tested are correct (if I decide to breed her) her hips have been exrayed, but not sent in to the AKC as her registry is still whith the CKC. At this time I am simply gathering informaton. Also, she should meet the German Shepherd or White Shepherd standards just because she has not been shown does not mean that she does not meet the standards.
 

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:greet: Welcome from Central Florida!!!

Thank you for your helpful information. First, I would like to a make acorrection; I put Meika's bithdate as 10/20/2005 when I should have written 10/20/2006. She just turned five years old not six. Regardless, it seems that most of the white shepherd competitions are in the east not in the western part of the USA. At her age (if allowed at that age) she would be competing against two year olds by the time she got a title she would be too old to breed. If I breed her it would be a one time breeding and would have to occur within the year. Hence, the desire to find out more about her genetic history from siblings, cousins etc.... I have visited the white german shepherd database and have also looked at the german shepherd database, but have found little information. I'm sure you willl agree that the more information I can find out about all of her relatives the better. As observed on the database many of the welll known kennels have had some genetic problems somewhere in the history.
Have you checked UKC ... they have shows all over the US. You can get a title in one weekend ... most of the clubs I mentioned have two shows a day for two or three days. But going to several, having a couple experts evaluate her conformation would be very beneficial to you in deciding if you should breed her or not. Shucks, there are many GSD breeders who are licensed AKC judges, you might even be able to contact a few of them to get an impartial evaluation of her conformation.

Of course getting the health screening is easier. The only problem I can think of is that some vets are better than others when doing quality hip -rays for submission to OFA/OVC.
 

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A healthy dog is as thrify as your going to get.
Yeah, but for some reason they still want food, they still want toys, they still want collars and leashes and microchips and soft beds to lie on, they want somebody to take care of them when I go out of town (to the tune of $50 a night because I have two), they still need check-ups. Mine just aren't thrifty. You're lucky yours is.
 
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