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I just saw this ad an the side of my facebook.... pretty much "take your dog anywhere! No more harrassment taking your dog in restaurants! Go everywhere with your dog!"... I had to click on it... They are pretty much soliciting anyone and everyone to sign up for their service, and be allowed to take your dog everywhere.. it says free, but I wasn't about to fill out the app... bet you pay somewhere, advertising isn't free... and this isn't legit....
This is the website: Service Dog Registration Of America:Non-Profit Organization

This is the FAQs 1. How do I register my Service Dog and get my ID Tags?top
Very simple. You simply fill out the short form here with some of your information and some of your dogs information and your dog will immediately be registered. You will then be taken to the next page where you can order your ID cards which will be sent to you via USPS and you will receive a tracking number.



How are they getting away with this :confused: What a slap in the face to real service animals :mad:
 

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The "honor system" is the only legal system and unfortunately it is a loophole that is exploited by many. I do not know who they are but this is fallout from the way the law it. Don't get me wrong I am not supporting or defending them I do not know them so I cannot say for sure what their true intention is.

IMO mandatory realistic certification is the only way to close the door on the illegitimate incidents.


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The way the law is written...anyone pretty much can walk into a store with a "service dog." There are very exact questions the store is allowed to ask you about the dog and if they ask the wrong question it could be considered discrimination according to the ADA and you can scream bloody murder. I know some people with disabilities and service dogs carry around an ADA handbook and will show a questioning employee their rights. At the end of the day, if you make a big enough squack and threaten legal action they'll probably leave you alone and let you do what ever you want (as long as you have a well behaved dog). If you are falsly claiming your dog as a service dog, and the dog does something bad, you'll be just as liable for injuries if your dog was a service dog.

SFGSSD is correct...the only way to "close" the loophole is mandatory certification. But that will never happen, mostly because it will be a huge obstacle for handler trained SDs and also for the huge variety of service dogs and disabilities there are. Plus...I really don't want my tax dollars going towards a service dog certification program...the current system works, while its abused by some, it probably helps a lot more than it gets abused.
 

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8. ...but it’s also a crime to impersonate a service dog so don’t do it.

Boy, was I was happy to read that - I was thinking this was some scam to register pets as Service Dogs. Phew!


 

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This is why I, a person with a legit service dog, will confront a person with a fake service dog. But I guess most people in my situation would do so.


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Just out of curiosity, how do you know someone has a fake service dog?
That is the real problem. With the way the law is written even with the challenge questions it is tough to know for sure. This is why I feel certification should be manditory.


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Dog is poorly behaved. If they freak out and bark like crazy when they see Fiona. In Ca there is an assistance tag issued by the county. If you don't have that...FAKE.


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Yes if the dog is poorly trained. I don't think your tag reasoning works though. What if they are not from your county? They wouldn't have that special tag. I'm just saying you can't often tell a fake.
 

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Dog is poorly behaved. If they freak out and bark like crazy when they see Fiona. In Ca there is an assistance tag issued by the county. If you don't have that...FAKE.


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If the Feds issued that nation wide, it would cut down on a lot of issues with fakers. I am sure a liberal will chime in and say that the ADA does not require it bla bla bla But let's be honest here, the guessing game needs to stop. If you are not part of the solution talking, it is safe to say your part of the problem.

I applaud your county for taking some control over the situation. NY is a state that requires a SD license, yeah yeah yeah... Federal law trumps state law. But it is an attempt to regulate a real problem with Service Dogs. This should be embraced not criticized.


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If the Feds issued that nation wide, it would cut down on a lot of issues with fakers. I am sure a liberal will chime in and say that the ADA does not require it bla bla bla But let's be honest here, the guessing game needs to stop. If you are not part of the solution talking, it is safe to say your part of the problem.
Political debates are not allowed here.

And since federal law does not require any identification for a service dog, looking for a specific tag that a specific county/state offers to assistance dogs is not a solid way of determining if a dog is a legitimate service dog or not. In addition, most of the places that offer such tags do not have requirements to procur them and so fakers have them as well. Which leads into the big problem with people purchasing SD tags, IDs, certifications, and so forth and presenting them for public access without educating the business on SD laws, and resulting in problems for the next legitimate SD team which does not have the same tag, ID, or paperwork. Education cuts down on fakers as well as makes things smoother for the next legitimate team. Its important for everyone to remember they are representing all other SD teams when in public.
 

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Political debates are not allowed here.

without educating the business on SD laws, and resulting in problems for the next legitimate SD team which does not have the same tag, ID, or paperwork. Education cuts down on fakers as well as makes things smoother for the next legitimate team. Its important for everyone to remember they are representing all other SD teams when in public.
Education for businesses Does Not cut down on fakers. The reality is that it causes businesses to fold and choose not to deal with it, allow all dogs and hope there is not a major issue.

This is not politics. This is reality. This is an opinion that you may not like but am entitled to, just like you are entitled to yours.

If someone "chooses" to identify their dog as a Service Dog by a vest, an ID, a certificate from the org they got the dog from, or however that is their choice and it is not against the law. What IS against the law is lying to obtain and use these things.
I applaud you for having the time to educate people every 10 minutes. However people get service dogs for the independence as well as security by mitigating the disability and most do not feel that independence is exercised when they are stopped and must educate people.




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General warning to all ... be careful on personal comments.

"I applaud you for having the time to educate people every 10 minutes."
SFGSSD, Drop the snarky remarks.
 

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Attacking any org or business that sells or offers the following.

1. Service Dog Vests
2. Service Dog ID
3. Service Dog registration (NOT certification)
4. Service Dog patches

If you use ANY of these, and are attacking businesses and orgs that offer these products your being a Hippocratic. (and also violating a rule of this forum I believe) YES, none of it is required by Federal Law and if no identification is required, should you go out in public in no pet areas without this equipment? Legally you could, and is also your choice. You are also subjected to the added scrutiny you WILL receive time and time again for exercising your legal right to not use any of these products to identify your dog. You can do this and it is your choice.

If you don't want to be bothered as much and purchase or use these products for your legitimate service dog it is your choice as well. It is NOT illegal or a "scam" if they sell these products.

What IS illegal and a "scam" is lying to obtain these products in accordance with the law. It is also against the law to use these products to impersonate a PWD to gain public access with a pet.




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LOL, no rules against being Hippocratic. I sincerly hope that all SD dog providers do consider themselves Hippocratic: "First, do no harm".
 
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