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I've seldom seen any such stories of Chuck and his dogs outside of "The Littlest Hobo Fan Page" Facebook Group, so I figured I'd ask here to gain some more insight on what Chuck and his dogs were actually like outside of "The Littlest Hobo", whether you met them in-person or witnessed them in a news/talk show, or at an Eaton's, live demonstration, etc. Please provide context and as many details as you can remember :)
 

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I watched him and his dogs perform live in the 1970s when they were filming in the Toronto area. It was amazing!

Carmen says she watched it, too, and could see the 'tell' that Chuck used to cue his dogs they'd made the right response.

I haven't found the exact post yet, but here's one where she talks about Chuck and the Littlest Hobo dogs: Book: "Stop! Sit! And Think" (Eisenmann). Anyone?
 

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I have a hardcover copy of Eisenman's book, London: The Dog Who Made the Team. Photo is of the back cover of the book.

When Eisenman went off to war, London was just a pup. He says he named the dog after London, England, because that was where he was stationed during the war.

He came back home to find a full-grown, extremely smart dog with a true GSD temperament.

Here's a quote from the book. Chuck was a baseball player (pitcher) and was being bullied by an umpire:
"Get going, Eisenmann. G'wan. I'll call the cops. G'wan, get outta here!"

With these words Manley raised his fist. It was an umpire's classic gesture of dismissal, to wave a player to the showers. But Manley let that clenched fist pass too close to Chuck's nose...

If Chuck could take it, London definitely would not. Onto the field he charged. With a snarl and a vicious show of teeth he lunged at the plate umpire, slamming his paws on his chest. Up in that position, a German Shepherd can kill. On his hind legs, as tall as the man, he bared fangs within inches of the man's throat.....

London, his big paws planted squarely on the umpire's body, somehow got him turned around and began pushing him off the field. No one lifted a hand to stop him. He pushed the vanquished enemy all the way to the stands.
A photographer from Life magazine was present at the game, and the pictures he took of the incident were featured in the next issue of LIfe. London was soon a nation-wide celebrity.


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I have a hardcover copy of Eisenman's book, London: The Dog Who Made the Team. Photo is of the back cover of the book.

When Eisenman went off to war, London was just a pup. He says he named the dog after London, England, because that was where he was stationed during the war.

He came back home to find a full-grown, extremely smart dog with a true GSD temperament.

Here's a quote from the book. Chuck was a baseball player (pitcher) and was being bullied by an umpire:

A photographer from Life magazine was present at the game, and the pictures he took of the incident were featured in the next issue of LIfe. London was soon a nation-wide celebrity.


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I never thought I'd read a quote from such a book. Nothing short of fascinating and amazing!
 

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We have a few threads here, if you search. I inherited some books and video from a deceased friend of Chuck’s a few years back, which prompted me to dig in a bit (including the thread linked above). Sometimes he comes up in reverse mask threads - I think there are some of those posts still around.
 

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There's a bunch of threads on the PDB, too.

A long time friend of Chuck's told me the original Hobo (London) was from the Kingston kennel in British Columbia. I have not been able to find any information on it, as it was so long ago but she said the kennel had an ad in one of the first English editions of von Stephanitz's book on the German shepherd.

Chuck kept the dog's lines secret because he didn't want them exploited the way Lassie and Rin Tin Tin were. He did breed to several females in Ontario, and in the book about London, he says his first litter was to a female that lived in Santa Monica, near the sea.

Litlon, I know where your name came from! 😁

From Wikipedia: The German shepherd dogs featured in both 1960s and 1980s series were owned and trained by Charles (Chuck) P. Eisenmann. The primary star was named London, but several of London's relatives, including Toro, Litlon, and Thorn, also played scenes as the Hobo.
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This from an article in the Roseburg, Oregon newspaper, written around the time Chuck died. The link to the article no longer works, but fortunately I archived it on my computer!


Their soft eyes greet Charles Eisenmann, 87, from his room walls every morning. Their names -- Toro, London, Lance, Beau and Thorn -- have appeared in movies, television shows, newspaper articles and books.

They are portraits and paintings of Eisenmann's superstars, his pupils and his once-constant companions -- German shepherds.

"We wanted to make the whole room his past, which was his dogs," Eisenmann's younger daughter, Kathy Woods of Roseburg, said.

Eisenmann, a resident of Manor House Memory Care Community, spent half his lifetime "educating" German shepherds, a job he sharply distinguishes from animal training.

"Never compare the educated, well-behaved dog, with the straight obedience-trained animal," he wrote in one of his three books, "A Dog's Day in Court." "The difference is like that which exists between day and night."

His dogs could identify colors and responded easily to commands, such as turning off lights, fetching different objects and mastering stunts. Eisenmann, who grew up on a Wisconsin farm with full-blooded German parents, taught his lessons in English, German and French.

According to his books, Eisenmann never doubted the mental capacity of his animals.

"...(I) didn't see the face of a dumb dog," Eisenmann wrote in "Stop! Sit! and Think." "Instead, (I) saw ... an eager face, a challenging face, a face which dared the human being to help him get an education, dared him to evaluate him as an individual, and not to judge him upon what were commonly thought his characteristics and abilities."

They were the words of a visionary in many respects, who, through the talents of him and his dogs, would earn a Canadian-produced television series, "The Littlest Hobo," which featured five dogs in two seasons.

His dogs also had roles in seven feature movies and appeared in many late-night shows with Johnny Carson, Merv Griffin, Steve Allen, NBC's "Today Show" and more.

In addition, they performed in thousands of road shows over 14 years and in various television specials.

"He's always been a goal-setter and wanted to be in the limelight," Woods said. "He's always wanted to be someone to accomplish something."

Despite growing dementia, Eisenmann still recalls much of the work of his life -- which also included years in the U.S. Army Signal Corps and jobs as a sports editor and columnist, an athletic director at a mental institution, a nightclub owner and a pitcher for three professional baseball teams.

Woods, who works for the local VA Health Care System, said her father's condition has worsened over about two years, though he still maintains some independence, and has regained his spirit since moving into Manor House.

"I could tell he was a really neat guy," Manor House administrator Sarah Calvert said. "He cracked jokes the first day I saw him."

A lifelong bachelor, Eisenmann moved to Roseburg in the mid-1980s, about 10 years before he stopped his work with dogs. He kept one German shepherd, Aura, as a pet until he was hospitalized for his stroke.

"There were no gimmicks (with my work)," Eisenmann said. "My dogs had experiences that no dog ever got."
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I met Chuck and his dogs a few times as a child. Family friend. I remember the dogs, not the man. I remember that they were exceptionally tolerant of an animal loving child who just wanted to adore them.
I have several photos and his books somewhere.
His training method was interesting but in all my years the only dog that really took to it was my Saboteur.
He was quoted as saying something to the effect of he was glad he knew nothing about dog training when he got London, it would have severely limited what the dog learned.
And whether or not the dogs had secret cues, there is no denying that they were brilliant and brilliantly trained.
 

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I never thought I'd read a quote from such a book. Nothing short of fascinating and amazing!
Litlon, I just checked, and found a copy of the book, in good condition, on Abe Books for just $23.00! That's a very good price for a hardcover book that's out of print.

Glad I have my own copy - the shipping cost to Canada is more than the price of the book! 😢


His other books are all paperbacks. You will find interesting stories about his dogs in them, but if you are expecting to learn to train your dog the way he trained his, they won't teach you that. He only gives very general guidelines about training. I know people who have tried to follow them, and found they didn't work. Read what Carmen (Carmspack) said about him, and that will help to explain why.

Three things I think are correct about his training:

He was with the dogs pretty much 24/7, and was constantly working with them and talking to them. Very few people are able to spend that sort of time with their dogs.

They had what Carmen calls 'genetic intelligence'. For instance, the original London figured out all on his own, how to turn off a light. The first night Chuck had a new pup home, London was the one who woke him up to tell him the pup needed to go outside to relieve himself.

Some of what appeared to be the dogs understanding what he was saying was actually just due to much repetition. The dogs learned a routine, and the routine was the same with every show he did. So ,when a dog was told to disobey an order,* it did it not because it understood the words but because it knew what it was supposed to do at this point in the routine. Carmen explains it very well in her posts to the first link I gave upstream, about the Stop, Sit and Think book.

* "He commanded his dog, London, to jump into the air.

The dog jumped.

“This time, London, when I say ‘jump’ it will mean lie down and put your
paws over your eyes ... London, jump!”

The dog dutifully lay down before covering its eyes."


One thing I learned from reading about Chuck was not everyone trains the same way. He was constantly talking to his dogs. Another trainer I was working with at that point told me NOT to talk to my dog, just let the dog figure out what I want by watching me... if it doesn't turn at the same time I do, it gets bumped into, or gets a leash correction when it hits the end of the leash! :rolleyes:

I figured out on my own that there has to be a happy medium between verbal diarrhea (you know, the people who say, sit, sit, SIT!!) and expecting the dog to be a mind-reader... 🤣
 

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I've seldom seen any such stories of Chuck and his dogs outside of "The Littlest Hobo Fan Page" Facebook Group, so I figured I'd ask here to gain some more insight on what Chuck and his dogs were actually like outside of "The Littlest Hobo", whether you met them in-person or witnessed them in a news/talk show, or at an Eaton's, live demonstration, etc. Please provide context and as many details as you can remember :)
Hi! Chuck was my grandfather. My moms dad. He was a very grandiose and eccentric man as you can probably imagine lol. So generous and kind as well. He was pretty down to earth at home…always had times of candy and was ready to show us what the dogs could do. Amazing man and amazing dogs.
 

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I've seldom seen any such stories of Chuck and his dogs outside of "The Littlest Hobo Fan Page" Facebook Group, so I figured I'd ask here to gain some more insight on what Chuck and his dogs were actually like outside of "The Littlest Hobo", whether you met them in-person or witnessed them in a news/talk show, or at an Eaton's, live demonstration, etc. Please provide context and as many details as you can remember :)
Hi there. Chuck was my grandfather on my moms side. As you can imagine he was a very grandiose and eccentric man. Always generous and kind but told you straight up if you weren’t looking your best lol. He was a regular guy who lived out his remaining years near us. He showed us with money, candy and always ready to show off what his dogs could do. They were amazing btw lol.
 
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