AKC Conformation for German bloodlines...?

I know there are big differences in conformation, and I've been told that my German working line puppy will not have what the judges are looking for in AKC shows.
But there are the German shows......Sieger Shows but I do not know a whole lot about them.

Hmmm...so I wonder if the AKC conformation is pretty much for the American lines (hence A = American in AKC)????

it all depends on the judge, i have an american/german bitch they all can see the german in her but everyone has said she is a nice looking girl and would do well once she get her act together, there is also UKC united kennel club that german lines do well in I wouldn't do big akc shows for now just do some smaller ones, akc is so political and ukc is very nice and it seems more and more is going to ukc (it is all owner handle dogs there)

What do you consider a big akc show?

over 500 total dogs and those are the ones that has some breeding with a speciality going on. http://www.infodog.com is a good place for upcoming shows if you havent looked there already

Do you have to start out as a puppy or can you start older? Are spayed or neutered dogs allowed?

Spayed/neutered dogs are not allowed in AKC or German conformation showing.

I know German conformation showing has classes for pups as young as 3 months old. Not sure about AKC.

All Show dogs must be intact, a "show" is basically to compete against the Standard of the breed to determine breeding quality. Spayed/neutered animals obviously can not be bred. That goes for any conformation show ring.

You can start them at any age. MOST German lines will not do well in AKC shows, two completely different interperations of the "Standard".

Originally Posted By: Chris WildSpayed/neutered dogs are not allowed in AKC or German conformation showing.

I know German conformation showing has classes for pups as young as 3 months old. Not sure about AKC.

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AKC does not allow under 6 months of age on the date of the show.

Oops.. it's 4 months for German conformation, not 3.

Originally Posted By: Chris WildOops.. it's 4 months for German conformation, not 3.

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At the national events (Sieger Shows), yes, 4-6. But at local shows, and probably regionals as well, you can find the 3-6 month class.

Christine

Wow! That whole thread was harsh. I read one person say that the American Show Dogs can not do what they were originally intended to do... herd all day. That is a blanket statement, and an untrue one at that. I know plenty of show dogs that have herding titles, and many other titles aswell.

IMO, someone, on either side, who is snoddy, jealous or rude about the other, be it, Ambred vs. German or German vs. Ambred, probably just has nothing better to do than trash the other. Its just bad sportsmanship in my mind.

Sometimes the showring is good to me, other times it is not, but I feel like the people on the thread are making it a choose sides type of thing.
whatever, just my opinion. Thanks for posting the link though.

There was nothing harsh about it, most was on topic too!
You want to talk harsh see posts on German working vs showing!!

And if you read the posts from the Smith's, its all about the LIKES/DISLIKES of the Judges not the STANDARD SV vs AKC!!

I'm sorry, but I do consider people calling dogs "crippled" and uncapable of working, harsh. My dog is not crippled and he won best of opposite at an AKC show just last weekend, owner handled.

Sayin that about all am bred show dogs is the exact same thing as calling all german dogs roach back.... right? Its RUDE and not correct.

I would not want to read the "harsh" posts. I would like to see people of the same breed getting along and understanding that it is the dog that matters. A nice dog is a nice dog, be it German or American IMO.

Folks tend to rant, be snooty, flame, opine, get indignant, soap box, berate, criticize, belittle and generally be morons, no matter the subject!

Add anonymity and no ability to see facial expressions or hear tones,
delayed responses, it often only gets worse.

Luckily for us all, dogs don't do that, and show us all how to be more tolerant, take ourselves less seriously, enjoy the moment.