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hey guys i have three dogs, they were all brough up together as puppies, a one year and a half old gsd, a year and a half old rottie, and a year old apbt. they have been thru obedience training and do very well with all their commands the problem is that sine the gsd turned around one year old he got very dominant with the rottie, and the rottie is very docile so it worked out, but my apbt is now a year old and all of a sudden the gsd is very aggresive towards him, but the problem is that this only happens when i go in the yard and they are both running towards me, all day long if they are alone they play like buddies but when it comes to me and getting attention the gsd just goes crazy, i have an appt set up with a behavoriol expert so we will see whats going on. but any input would be greatly appreciated. and yes they have been seperated for about 2 months since the first time i saw them go at it. im not taking any chances. thanks guys
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That defintiely sounds like one for the pros. At first one might attribute it to protection but they don't come a whole lot more protective than a Rottie so perhaps it's an alpha thing. I don't claim to understand everything I know about the aplha deal but some dogs seem to want it and some don't. I once had a GSD and a Bloodhound. Both extremely dominant, they would fight every chance they got and the GSD would soundly kick the BH's ass every time but he kept coming back for another ass kicking everytime. Finally had to give the BH away.
I got my previous GSD from a friend who had gotten him from a friend who could no longer care for him. The guy bought another GSD puppy and within a year the pup was making life a living **** for the older dog. It wasn't enough to be simply dominant, Saul didn't give flip either way, he wouldn't let him eat, drink, be around anybody else and I'm sure he begrudged him the air he breathed.
Saul could have easily dispatched the pup but it just wasn't the way he was. Good luck with yours.
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You are in exactly the situation that scares most of us away from getting littermates or pups the same age. They can all have the same problems and issues at the same time! (Click here and Click here )

I know some people end up playing 'The Crate Game' and never being able to have all dogs out at the same time. I personally would find that hard to do, but if it was the only way to prevent medical bills and the stress/drama of having all the dogs out, it would either be that or me finding a new great home for at least one of the dogs.

Hopefully you can find a trainer/behaviorist to help.

I know that I'd be trying to REALLY up the exercise for everyone (specially if one dog seemed more the instigator). As well as working on leadership (not just 'obedience' but real leadership that our dogs understand) for myself in the pack you have created. A good book is The Dog Listener by Jan Fennell. Also some good articles at http://www.flyingdogpress.com/articles.html
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Originally Posted By: rawar83 but my apbt is now a year old and all of a sudden the gsd is very aggresive towards him, but the problem is that this only happens when i go in the yard and they are both running towards me, all day long if they are alone they play like buddies but when it comes to me and getting attention the gsd just goes crazy,
Ummm, I hate to sound blunt but... don't play with them together outside like that! Problem solved. If they coexist peacefully in the house don't screw it up by playing fetch with multiple dogs or trying to train them together. My male and female are great together, but if I threw a tug or ball with both of them on the field at the same time they would practically kill each other to be the one to bring it back to me. Exercise and train them individually.
Did I read that three dogs are left out to play all day long by themselves?

http://leerburg.com/articles.htm has some articles about dog packs, but I agree with John and then further, you need to safely contain them when you are not home.
I think it may be time for more classes for all of them or at minimum the instigator (your GSD). Also, check out the link in my signature for information on being a good leader; leadership makes a huge difference. It sounds like the GSD is alpha in your pack and is trying to dictate when and who can interact with you. Big no-no!
YOU are the leader, you have every right to deflate your GSD's ego and make it crystal clear that he does not decide how the pack interacts with you; only you have that right. A good solution is to greet your GSD first, send him away, greet the next dog (probably the pit) and push away the GSD and correct him strongly if he comes too close, then send off the pit and greet the rottie. In this way you respect their order but you also make it very clear who calls the shots when it comes to giving attention and affection. Finally, I agree with all the above posts. Separation is a big thing; some dogs just get too competitive. It would be wise to not allow them to be alone together ever, lest you want to come home to a veterinary emergency or a dead dog.

What do you do to teach them to get along?
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A good solution is to greet your GSD first, send him away, greet the next dog (probably the pit) and push away the GSD and correct him strongly if he comes too close, then send off the pit and greet the rottie. In this way you respect their order but you also make it very clear who calls the shots when it comes to giving attention and affection.

Ditto!
I would also keep up this hierarchy inside- like during feeding (the higher ranking is fed first etc) and other, to not cause any confusion/questions in rank.
I'm very curious to what the behavorist says - pls keep us updated!
Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAANDid I read that three dogs are left out to play all day long by themselves?
I didn't even catch that. IF these three are left outside alone all day you are setting up a pack with a survival of the fittest mindset. Be careful.
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