I always kept Molly on a 30 foot light leash when in the same situation you explained. We would go to a local school yard for some off leash training and play and I would always keep that leash on her because if she ever did get distracted by a squirrel or bird then I had 30 feet of leash dragging behind her to grab to get her back to me. I would lure her in with the leash and make sure I was much more fun and entertaining than anything else on the field and then praise, praise, praise when she made it to me.
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I'll try the long lead...I'm still a bit worried. If she runs at me, or perpendicular to me, I'm sure I could step on a 30' lead and stop her. If she were to run away from me, there's no way I could catch her. She's a fast pup and I am a slow white guy.
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I could also try with it with me holding the lead, but then I'm limited to recalls of that length.
I'll let y'all know how it goes.
-Dan
I could also try with it with me holding the lead, but then I'm limited to recalls of that length.
I'll let y'all know how it goes.
-Dan
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Your pup is only 5 months old. There will be many stages of joyful lack of focus and downright wilful disobedience to come in the next few years. Your pup is doing greatOriginally Posted By: ColoradoI'll try the long lead...I'm still a bit worried. If she runs at me, or perpendicular to me, I'm sure I could step on a 30' lead and stop her. If she were to run away from me, there's no way I could catch her. She's a fast pup and I am a slow white guy.![]()
I could also try with it with me holding the lead, but then I'm limited to recalls of that length.
I'll let y'all know how it goes.
-Dan
Please do attach a long line to whatever length "a slow white guy"
All the best.
she is doing great for five months!! continue to do what everyone said and she will have that 100% recall. an e-collar should only be used as a last resort for your situation not on your six month old puppy. it is very possible to use positive training for a great recall, it just takes lots of time- and it seems like you are more than willing to take the time
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I disagree with this statement. An e-collar is a very useful tool for developing near 100% recall when used PROPERLY and taught by a QUALIFIED e-collar trainer. Speaking with first hand experience, when used properly it is not detrimental to a young dog.Originally Posted By: I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO an e-collar should only be used as a last resort for your situation not on your six month old puppy. it is very possible to use positive training for a great recall, it just takes lots of time- and it seems like you are more than willing to take the time![]()
i said this because the method he is using is obviously working- he just needs to proof it, which will come in time. and since its working, i don't see a need to use an e-collar. i never said it was detrimental and i never said anything bad about it. but in his situation, it seems like him and his puppy are doing a great job and spending the time to train.Originally Posted By: TracieI disagree with this statement. An e-collar is a very useful tool for developing near 100% recall when used PROPERLY and taught by a QUALIFIED e-collar trainer. Speaking with first hand experience, when used properly it is not detrimental to a young dog.Originally Posted By: I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO an e-collar should only be used as a last resort for your situation not on your six month old puppy. it is very possible to use positive training for a great recall, it just takes lots of time- and it seems like you are more than willing to take the time![]()
Hi Colorado,
I found this on a site ( http://www.trainmypet.net/info/vet.php)
How big or old does my dog need to be to use static stimulation(e-collar)?
A: The size of the dog that can use static stimulation is really dependent on the size of the receiver collar and if the dog can comfortably wear the collar. As technology improves, the receiver collars are getting smaller and smaller. The best thing to do is to look at the size of the receiver collar and determine if your dog could comfortably wear it based on their body type. As far as age, the old adage "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" just isn't true. Like us, a dog is never too old to learn but puppies can be too young. A good rule of thumb is once a puppy can be trained to simple commands, like sit and stay, he is ready to learn with any type of training (too early and they do not have the attention span to pay attention and to learn).
There are alot of great articles on this site if your interested in them
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Lou Castle also has a WONDERFUL site that had a great article on recall (www.loucastle.com)
I found this on a site ( http://www.trainmypet.net/info/vet.php)
How big or old does my dog need to be to use static stimulation(e-collar)?
A: The size of the dog that can use static stimulation is really dependent on the size of the receiver collar and if the dog can comfortably wear the collar. As technology improves, the receiver collars are getting smaller and smaller. The best thing to do is to look at the size of the receiver collar and determine if your dog could comfortably wear it based on their body type. As far as age, the old adage "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" just isn't true. Like us, a dog is never too old to learn but puppies can be too young. A good rule of thumb is once a puppy can be trained to simple commands, like sit and stay, he is ready to learn with any type of training (too early and they do not have the attention span to pay attention and to learn).
There are alot of great articles on this site if your interested in them
I chose to begin training my 4 month old shepherd on an e-collar for the sake of consistency not laziness. I don’t want my dogs’ only motivation to work for me to be based on bribery, excuse me, I mean rewards. I want my dog to be able to go out in the real world and perform just as he has in his obedience classes. By using my e-collar, I can consistently communicate with my dog and I don’t need an endless supply of treats or a rocket launcher to give him his treats if he should decide to take off after something that holds more interest to him than me. (He is a dog after all)
Training my dog on an e-collar also allows me to maintain gentle effective control of my dog wherever he is and at whatever distance away from me he may be without having to have him tethered by a 20, 50 or even 100 foot leash. (once his training was complete of course) In the event he makes a bad decision, I can change his mind quickly.
My dog has not known the restriction of a leash since he was 6 months old. So if teaching my dog to listen to me, obey my requests because he has learned to be voice conscious to my commands makes me a lazy person then by all means…your right, it is what it is and I shall be a lazy trainer for the rest of my days
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