Nonononono, ya got to wrap it around the tail.
Lol. I wasn't teaching the sit. Poor wording on my part. He refused acceptance of the collar. After the second day or so, Soon as I called him to collar up he would lay down flat and glue his face/neck to the floor. He loves getting collared up to go out so I knew I wasn't doing it right. Threw it in the drawer and never put it on him again. It was all me and not doing better research, dealing with gadgets and buttons. Wish I hadnt fouled up because he had his basics down and all I wanted it for was to be able to let him off leash and use it to get his attention. he is so zoned in with his scenting and zones out on everything else.
And again big kudos for Mozilla for doing the research.
I think it is one of those things that one could easily screw up as it is very easy to press the button. Also one needs to do some trial and error, and when not blessed with having a super experienced trainer around, it could get tricky. The dogs need time to process...
I screwed up twice in the early part of the journey where he did vocalise. I jumped into play and treat for him to think it was nothing. I felt like **** but it was part of the trial and error process I think, probably similar to an over correction using another tool. But I went VERY careful after those two incidents. Patience and always associated things with fun and treats.
Now, since we started, we are good and consistent about it all and I think I (luckily) passed the trial and error above. I rarely go up more than 7-8. Max at 10. If you see my earlier posts about levels, you can see the progress down in the levels. I am very happy that now we communicate at that low level.
I use it very little now. Very. His off leash is good but I do have it on as a back up when he is off leash. The come is very good and unless he is going crazy in a precarious situation, I dont use it. If I do, it is a small "nick" at 7-10 depending on the distraction. I say it with the command now. I don't say "No". He gets it as communication and does not think I am correcting. He comes happily and the ratre times I use it and when he comes, I throw a party.
I did lots of research yes, and I lucked out that my trial and error went ok. I am also now very glad that every day we can go run and play off leash in the park (not a dog park and not fenced) and that we have this communication. It gave me the peace of mind and him an amazing freedom.
We were in the desert the other day with some friends who had a Mali / Husky Mix. When we arrived, one of the people saw my remote and said what is this? I explained. She said, oh this is where you electrocute your dog. I was kind of angry and told her I would never hurt my dog. The dogs played and played. At some point, a team of off road cars passed in not very far distance. The Mali / Husky went off and went and all the group went after her and she would not stop. I told Rex, "go get her!" and I was not worried that he would not come back. He ran and ran, caught up to her, I called him back and they came. Didnt stim but it was on and I was ready. The girl who told me about the "electrocution" came and said now I get it.....They ordered one for the Mal / Mix and I offered to help. Here are some pictures of the the desert trip