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E Collar Methodology/Lou Castle

Hello everybody. In communications with a trainer and considering E collar training with them but I'm trying to understand it better since this will be first I would be using it. My dog's at probably an 80-90 % recall success rate, with the decrease being around other dogs. My goal is a 100 % off the leash trained dog by a year old.


Searches of the forum constantly mention Lou Castle and his website, however, his website is now down. Is there anywhere this information still exists?


As I understand it, Castle's methodology is giving the dog a very low level shock when giving the command? Some posts mention it is different then Leerburg's methodology which has banned Lou Castle on the forums without kind words. But this board seems overwhelmingly supportive of Lou Castle's methodology.


Appreciate anybody pointing me to some good information so I can help understand the current methodology behind E Collar training.
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I wonder if your own website would ban you, once you've run out of forums? Here's some reading that predates that other guy:

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Personally, I'd put the collar away for now. Your dogs too young. You can accomplish more then you think without it.

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But this board seems overwhelmingly supportive of Lou Castle's methodology.
He was banned here, I don't think his methods have really been discussed on this forum since his membership was terminated.
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I wonder if your own website would ban you, once you've run out of forums? Here's some reading that predates that other guy:

Dobbs Training Libraries

Personally, I'd put the collar away for now. Your dogs too young. You can accomplish more then you think without it.
This is great information, thanks! Mei has responded very well to the E-Collar training. I find myself rarely even using it lately, now that I mention it.

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He was banned because he couldn't play by the rules and not because of how he used the collar. Too bad his site is down. He was who I learned from.



I attended two seminars with Dodds. If that was my only experience with the E-collar I never would have used one.
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He was banned here, I don't think his methods have really been discussed on this forum since his membership was terminated.
That would explain why I couldn't find much recently mentioning him. Everything goes back to like 2016 and earlier.
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I wonder if your own website would ban you, once you've run out of forums? Here's some reading that predates that other guy:

Dobbs Training Libraries

Personally, I'd put the collar away for now. Your dogs too young. You can accomplish more then you think without it.
Thank you for the information. I did a small overview and it looks like a GREAT resource so I've bookmarked it and will start reading through. And yea, I'm not rushing into anything. She's doing great, but want to become more educated about it. I definitely teeter back and forth on the topic.
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I don't know Lou Castle, but there are some great threads in the archives which have lots of links to additional information. Here's a couple.

https://www.germanshepherds.com/foru...dominance.html

https://www.germanshepherds.com/foru...iscussion.html

You can also pull up his profile and see all the threads he initiated...

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It's all fine and well to knock the man who is not here to defend himself, but considering the amount of work and time he donated to help people I haven't got much bad to say about him. I was a member of his site for a long time, and he was nothing but helpful and responsive. He exchanged dozens of emails with me and we chatted by phone several times while he was attempting to help with Shadow. His method worked beautifully until I screwed it up.
I didn't see anyone else offering to help.
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Agree with Steve.
I used (still do for some things) an e collar with my pup at a young age at too high of levels per a professional trainer and it wasn't fair. She was too young to fully understand what I was asking and even if she understood my expectations weren't realistic for a puppy under 1.5. Sending an 8 mo old high drive pup to run with a Mal and expecting her to break for recall was unrealistic. Thank god I have a strong dog and didn't wreck her. I won't give the next one as much freedom and my expectations will be lower until the pup matures to 1.5-2 yo.

I've met Lou Castle, nice guy, talks a lot, I like the way my dog works better. I find his use of an e collar to be fair. He advocates initial learning in conjunction with a leash and low stim.

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