These days not many use a "Choke Collar" anymore?? Now a days, it's a "Prong Collar" a "Martingale (which is not really a training collar ... but people, think they are and get results so whatever) a "Regular Collar and a Flat leash" or yes an "E-Collar." And of course my tool of choice is a Slip Lead Leash ... but I doubt you'll find any trainers near you that use/train that??
And I doubt that a competent trainer would suggest the use of an "E-Collar" on the "Vibration setting???" If your dog were "deaf" perhaps??? But if such is not the case ... then they should have said "something" about finding the "Working Level" for your dog with the use of an "E-Collar."
The fact that your dog does not like "Down" is not really a surprise? Dogs don't tend to like "down" I used "down" as a "hammer" for my "Boxer." "Down" meant "stop the crap, play time is over." Her flews would flap in protest ... but down she would go.
If you want to better understand how to use an E-Collar see here:
As for my efforts to help see here ... it started as a "SLL" thread but ... most people we're getting it ( I have heard and helped a few ... but not a lot ... good enough for me) so I changed in the middle and suggested people use a real tool. In anycase see here.
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And most likely the "problem is your "corrections are no longer effective?" Not unusual but there is a solution ... just use a "PC" instead of the "tug" hmmm and that tug needs to be sideways ... not straight back ... for the record.
But the "PC" see here. :
And the "PC" is simply a "Bicycle Air Pump" it's about half that cost at your local "Bicycle Shop." in anycase you've already take the first step in getting a grip on this ie ... "if what I am doing is not working ... stop, think and do something different??"
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Thank you so much for info!! I owned another german shepherd but I got him at 1.5 years old so I never really dealt with puppies and training them.
I believe the collar I'm using is called a choke collar. I tried to find a picture but couldn't really find it so I'm probably naming it wrong. It's like a chain collar that's linked together and when I pull, it will pinche. Actually it is like a prong collar without the spikes.
Yeah I've been working on the sideways pull with him and definitely has not been helping. I believe you're right, Kaiser doesn't find much enjoyment in training anymore. He loves the agility courses we do but obedience, he is not a fan of.
My trainer recommended an e collar as well for some other problems I was having such as digging when I'm not around as well as barking in the middle of night. He showed me how to use it on an e collar he has but still wants to show me once I get mine once again. He was telling me to put it on him around 2am when I get home cause he'll start barking around that time especially since then neighbors are always outside around 3am doing who knows what. I know it's not advised to leave it for awhile or when I'm not watching him though? Not sure.
Anyways, do you have any tips how I could make training much more enjoyable? I've given him a ton of praise as we're training but it seems he's getting bored of that now? Oddly enough, he doesn't like treats as I've tried a ton of treats (even peanut butter) and he doesn't like raw foods neither such as chicken. I see his tail is wagging everywhere while we're training but still don't see him as happy anymore. I've lowered the amount of training time we do as well. He loves to play with his toys but only when I'm not around. I'm not sure how else I should award if he doesn't like a lot of things lol
I noticed this all started happening when I started socializing him with other pups as well? I've been getting him use to my girlfriends shih tzu and they love to play. We have this big agility course they love to play at and we'll just let them go those two while we watch. Not sure if this was the wrong move but I don't see why not?
What can I change up?? I don't want to say we have the perfect relationship and he's the happiest dog but I can see we have a pretty good relationship as he'll start freaking out when I walk away or I'll leave him with my parents in the backyard. He won't get aggressive but he looks worried when I leave like I won't come back?
Again thank you so much for the info and help!!! My last german shepherd was extremely easy for me to train as he picked up a lot really easy. Should I maybe just wait for him to grow up and to start training? I prefer not too as I want to start his training young.