Wow thanks so much for all the advice! You don't know how it has lifted my spirits!
Just a suggestion, you might want to sit down and have a talk with both trainers to let them know your concerns and hesitations regarding their methods. Let them drill down and explain to you what they really are teaching. Do not be afraid to ask questions, (make a list and bring it with you so you do not forget anything). A good trainer will have no issue explaining methods and results with you.
This first trainer was a 6 session deal for spring. He won't have another class suited for my pup until winter maybe spring.(Right now he's doing advanced stuff for sports or tracking or something).
I have had this conversation with the 2nd trainer at the first session. But maybe revisiting the issue may be appropriate. Also, I may need to really search myself self to see if I am totally buying in to PO training. I stay so frustrated.
How are you trying to convince the pup to take the food..because that may be making it worse. Shoving food at it will make it not want to eat.
We'll that helps because I do try to get her to sniff it! When she was younger I would handheld because she wouldn't be eager (we had scheduled feedings not free feeds) and she would eat from it fine then. I may have to ditch this meals/rewards thing though because the weight loss makes me antsy. It's probs PTSD because I have a chronically I'll kid (grown now) that has been FTT a couple times and ended up on enteral feeds. I've been inundated with growth/nutrition info for a number of years and it's probably bleeding over!
Patience and consistency. It's going to take a long time for your puppy to mature. Mine still does behaviors you described and she's 1. It's gotten a whole lot better.
This makes me feel netter. I would like to know where my and her are at on the spectum (I know it can vary greatly) of what she should be able to do and where I could be pushing to hard.
Two trainers at once?? That strikes me as a bit ... "extreme???" All the trainers I source work with dogs with "serious" freaking issues as well as "normal family pets." And they "All" train the "Place Command." If your talking to them and trying to decide?? I'd ask them if they "Train Place??" If they have no idea what your talking about or explain why they don't "need" to .. I'd say ... you know which one to "eliminate" from "further" consideration.
No. We first used the 1st trainer at 3.5 months, 6 sessions but he didn't have an open class to further it. So we started with the 2nd trainer 2 weeks ago. So wasn't by choice really.
I'm going to check out the video you guys suggested by Ellis. And The links and video you all posted thanks again! This forum is awesome!