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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old 06-26-2016, 11:24 PM Thread Starter
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Advise needed Fireworks - How to Handle the Next 2 Weeks?

My last 2 GSD's were petrified and it was a lifelong problem with them going into total panic mode.

This one, Summer - I exposed her @ 14 weeks old - 6 mos % 1 year. She's an adult now (2) with an adult mandate. Fireworks booths have gone up and people are lighting them within 50 feet of our house... I chased some kids off an hour ago but many throw them from cars.

Summer looks to me for how to react.... the windows are open which is a rare 2-3 months of the year when they are usually closed because AC or heat is on.... so it's hyper loud right now.

Question.... Like other stuff I've been told here - my reaction will key her reaction...my response will key her response....If I don't acknowledge - she'll make small woofs and I can feel her drilling holes in my head WHAT IS THE RESPONSE HERE MOM?" By doing nothing, I feel like I'm breaking training with her....

I don't think ignoring her is right... I don't think redirect is right... she's pretty much beyond needing that... She totally goes silent when I tell her to or raises heck when I tell her yes, something's wrong.

How do I deal with this? I quietly tell her it's ok and she lays down right beside me - but apprehensive... because she's an adult now and wants to know why I'm being dumb over the situation....????

Normally, I've trained her to alert to "not normal" sounds - this is certainly that - so my response must be frustrating to her.... she does not like it - I feel like a partner off normal alertness letting her down and I think she sees it that way...

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I know they're a fire hazard, especially for our area, but get out and enjoy them. Do something fun with her while they're being let off. Play tug, fetch or whatever games she likes and It'll will help her create a positive association. Another thought, getting after the people setting them off may end up being counter productive. You react and she may pick up on this.
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I know they're a fire hazard, especially for our area, but get out and enjoy them. Do something fun with her while they're being let off. Play tug, fetch or whatever games she likes and It'll will help her create a positive association. Another thought, getting after the people setting them off may end up being counter productive. You react and she may pick up on this.

Thanks Nigel - We're normally in bed at 9 and up at 5 (that's daylight and dark) this time of year as you know. (Ain't it great!)

The thing...probably my head trip is I'm very involved right now on training Summer on house/yard perimeter guarding and this is a conflict in her training. Unusual noises are key to her alerting me. Do I want to simply "redirect" or make it fun for her at this point??


I think it's valid - my last GSD was not good with loud noises and the paint cans exploding in my next door neighbors house set him off and when I saw the flames called 911 - almost took our house with it 4 alarm. "Smoke and I sat on a curb across the street for 4 hours till that 3 story house burnt into the basement.... me in PJ's with a firemans jacket over me and Smoke on a belt leash.

I'll not forget the 911 call I made... "Is there anyone inside"... "I don't know, I hear screaming" "My dog just woke me up".. "Oh my God, the huge tree in my yard's of fire", "You need to leave your house NOW- Walk out into the street", Officers are on their way". NOW!!! STAY ON THE PHONE WITH ME"!, Then the power in my house started "swimming" and went dead....

I want Summer to alert to noises that are not normal.... not just redirect. Would she know the difference if I train her to ignore really loud out of the ordinary noises???

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My first german shepherd enjoyed fireworks. She was conditioned by my young son not to be scared of the noise. I remember her relaxing next to my son when he was a little boy, having fun banging toy gun caps with a rock. One night there was an (illegal) impromptu fireworks display which my family enjoyed from our balcony. I watched my dog walk out of the garage to watch the display, and when it finished, turning around and going back inside. If you enjoy the noise, Summer will pick up on that, if you are distressed and disturbed by the noise, she will pick up on that.
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I've done that with her and they don't seem to bother her if she can see them and knows I'm aware of them. A different story with the "unseen" ones and the one's the kids set off here close to the house. I'm about 200 feet from the fireworks stand they set up every year. I guess just ignoring is the thing to do.

I'll sit with her on the couch again this time around and we'll watch them out the window. I was hoping to leave her in the house and walk the 4 blocks to the lake and watch them but I don't know how she'd react alone.
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If I was that close to the fireworks show I would not leave my dog alone. That is just me. I once did live that close with a shepherd that did not like fireworks and I tranquilized her every fourth. Thankfully (weird to say that), fire danger is so high here that illegal fireworks throwers are very very rare.

I just grin and bare it. I really dislike this holiday as it is just a stupid drunk fest by me. Nothing about this nation's independence as far as I can tell.

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If I was that close to the fireworks show I would not leave my dog alone. That is just me. I once did live that close with a shepherd that did not like fireworks and I tranquilized her every fourth. Thankfully (weird to say that), fire danger is so high here that illegal fireworks throwers are very very rare.

I just grin and bare it. I really dislike this holiday as it is just a stupid drunk fest by me. Nothing about this nation's independence as far as I can tell.

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The 4th is so much fun here. It carries the "American Hero's Day" theme. There's a huge parade all sorts of events, then in the evening the crowd swells to about 50,000 and there is a candlelight vigil held for fallen heroes who gained our independence. Then huge stage speakers (set atop a 2 story building on the lake) play music and the fireworks are set off from a barge on the lake and timed to the music.

Tahoe wasn't much on the 4th. We lived in the Regan Beach area for a while where they used to set the fireworks off - not much of a show. New Years Eve was pretty fun though when they shut the street down to traffic in front of the casino's. One big party
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At first my dogs are afraid of it. When the fireworks will start they will run and hide. But now they already enjoy when have fireworks.
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Rather than leave her behind what about taking her to a nearby spot to watch them with her? Would the Tubbs hill area be ok?
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I have observed mine for a while now. My older golden has gotten more nervous has he gets older but still not bad. This is what I notice.....If we are inside and they hear it, they bark, I say it's ok and they lay back down. If they are outside and hear them they ignore them and keep doing whatever they are doing. When it comes to guns, they tend to alert me. When Robyn and Midnite did the temperament test they didn't even acknowledge the gun shot. There was a murder in the building I used to live in and Misty my oldest went nuts and kept running to the door, we didn't know it was a gun shot at the time.

They seem to know the difference in different circumstances.

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