Interesting, from your link, this was duplicated in the other study Lou Castle mentioned:
Many people are concerned that the stress of e-collar training will make dogs fearful or aggressive. While the dogs developed an initial conditioned anticipatory fear reaction during the escape training portion of Tortora’s program, their fear was extinguished during the subsequent avoidance and proofing stages. Upon reviewing these results, Tortora stated “It seems that the impact of safety reinforcement is to make the dog less fearful generally and better able to withstand trauma.”
The results of the present study indicate that the electronic training collar induces less distress and shows stronger “learning effect” in dogs in comparison to the pinch collar. The quitting signal is on the other hand not found effective in police dog training although it causes the “least distress” reactions in dogs when comparing with the electronic training and pinch collar. Altogether, concerning the “bodily reactions”, the pinch collar was evaluated as the most distressful method and considering the “learning effect”, the electronic training collar was found to be the most effective method.
From - Schalke, Stichnoth and Jones-Baade 2007; Clinical signs caused by the use of electric training collars on dogs in everyday situations
In this study Schalke et al. found that when dogs were able to predict and control shocks, they did not show persistent or considerable stress indicators.
It is interesting, and rather telling, that very few anti e-collar articles / studies site the obviously positive study conducted by Daniel F. Tortora. Omitting such research is creating bias in the article or study.
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"After I found Tortora’s article, I decided to conduct a google literature review on articles related to the use of e-collars in dog training. My goal was to get an idea for how widely cited his article was. I spent dozens of hours searching google scholar for articles related to shock collars, remote training collars, electronic training collars and electric collars. I also searched specifically for articles that cited Tortora.
I was shocked by what I discovered and that’s what inspired the above post."
David, that's the part that jumped out at me - where I underlined the text. This bothered the author, and it bothers me too. Sorry Jax if this seems redundant to you, but when Dani posted this last summer I wasn't ready to consider using an ecollar yet, so I didn't pay as much
attention as I should have.
huh? I posted the original conversation because I thought there might be something worthwhile in there and someone in this thread might benefit. I won't waste my time again.
I doubt it was meant like that and certainly not a waste time, I missed that thread and will check it out, thanks for posting it. We are currently using an e collar and have solved a couple problems in short order, very happy so far.
After looking over that U.K. forum Blanket Back posted in my Amazon UK thread, let me just say, redundant or not, thank goodness we don't get totally shut down and banned for even discussing the use of e collars or prongs here!